re-registering a defected vehicle?

AmmoJammo · 10-03-2006, 08:27 AM

now, I do believe its illegal to sell a defected vehicle, well, I bought one. The person I bought it off also bought it defected. As far as I know, rego is still in the previous owners name (she had it transfered into her name while the car was defected)

anyway, I'm wondering if its possible to register this car from scratch? (the same as you would with an imported car from Japan)

thanks for any help.

347_XR8 · 10-03-2006, 10:16 AM

If it's been defected, i'm guessing you would have to go thru the normal stuff. Such as getting the defection removed and a roadie.

brenx · 10-03-2006, 10:19 AM

If you go through a full roadworthy? The defect is null and void. A defect is also null and void once the rego is cancelled. Been there done that but only in Vic.

You won't get a r/w if the vehicle has anything defective about it.

AmmoJammo · 10-03-2006, 10:27 AM

I was told I wouldn't be able to re register it, because it was sold with the defect, and therefore should have been sold as a wreck...

I'm guessing the previous owner cancelled the rego, but I still have the plates, and it was last registered in her name... hmm

BLKFPV · 10-03-2006, 01:49 PM

was there a notice of disposal/acquisition with the purchase ??
always get one whether it is registered or not as that keep the paper trail alive

if not, then you don't own the "car" , but own all the parts of it

ring the Road Dept of your state and just ask them about what to do, I reckon the defect would have to be cleared to have valid paperwork (with or without registration), but Dept may show heart and just accept a new RWC

were there any unpaid fines with the defect notice ?? cause if there are your story ends

hope it works out for the best

BJ · 10-03-2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by brenx

If you go through a full roadworthy? The defect is null and void. A defect is also null and void once the rego is cancelled. Been there done that but only in Vic.

You won't get a r/w if the vehicle has anything defective about it.

Wrong. They will not give you a road worthy if the car has been sold with a defect. The only way you will get it done is A/ You must get a written letter from the original owner stating why it was defected and how it was sold with said defect and B/ the issuing officers name and number and the type of defect that was issued. Now the hard part, you will have to prove that you had no prior knowledge that the car we defected. In short i don't like you cancer's. The law is black and white over this. If it is a Jap import they will wipe the car off the register.

OLDFORDNUT · 10-03-2006, 03:19 PM

garbage,
if car is now unregistered then you need to make sure its all in good condition then get your RWC and go and register it.
Q/what happens if a defect is not fixed.A/ the rego is cancelled.
then the defect is null and void,
as car is unregistered so cant be driven in its unsafe condition ,untill new RWC and rego,

BJ · 10-03-2006, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nicholas

garbage,
if car is now unregistered then you need to make sure its all in good condition then get your RWC and go and register it.
Q/what happens if a defect is not fixed.A/ the rego is cancelled.
then the defect is null and void,
as car is unregistered so cant be driven in its unsafe condition ,untill new RWC and rego,

It may be that way in QLD but down here in Melbourne i can a shore you its not that simple buddy

brenx · 10-03-2006, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BJ

It may be that way in QLD but down here in Melbourne i can a shore you its not that simple buddy

I've done it the way I stated John. Only registered vehicles can have defect notices. Once it's not registered anymore the defect will still show on paper but will be cleared as to re-registered the car you need a roady which clears the defect.

brenx · 10-03-2006, 04:39 PM

You only need to clear a defect notice if you intend to use the current rego left on the car.

efgiar · 10-03-2006, 04:46 PM

as far as i kno if u have the transfer of ownership papers, u can just go and get a roady, and re reg it... but u cant get temp rego to drive it to the rw joint because of the defect.

BA_Turbs · 10-03-2006, 04:51 PM

Most of the replies in this thread have been Victorian biased, so I'm going to assume that you are based there. Now my idea is simple:

RING VICROADS

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AmmoJammo · 10-03-2006, 04:51 PM

I do not have the ownership transfer papers...

I have the defect slip...

I have the defect slip from another time it was defected too...

how much does it cost to register a new vehicle from scratch?

I live in ADELAIDE! :p

brenx · 10-03-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by efgiar

as far as i kno if u have the transfer of ownership papers, u can just go and get a roady, and re reg it... but u cant get temp rego to drive it to the rw joint because of the defect.

Spot on. No permits for defective vehicles. They have to be towed.

MrFlibbles · 10-03-2006, 07:12 PM

gotta take it through regency park
make sure defect is fixed though and that nothing else is defectable or you gotta go through again.

or depending on age of vehicle buy a cheap $200 up matching car out of the trader and swap all plates over and simply re register it as that car... youd be surprised at how many cars are "fixed" like that here in adelaide
I DO NOT ENDORSE THE ABOVE!!

buickman · 10-03-2006, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by brenx

You only need to clear a defect notice if you intend to use the current rego left on the car.

Your right on that one.I purchased a Escort for my son when he 1st got his license & it had a defect on it. The guy cancelled the rego & I fixed up into roadworthy condition.
I have a rebirth car in the back yard purchased from the auctions after the police had cleared the car. I 'am trying to find out if it can be registead from vic roads but I think some people that work in Vic roads have not got a clue. One person I spoke to said it can with a vic police vin no & another said the car has no history but the engine no is Ok but cannot be rego'd. Oh well it might be a wrecker for parts.

atec77 · 10-03-2006, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AmmoJammo

now, I do believe its illegal to sell a defected vehicle, well, I bought one. The person I bought it off also bought it defected. As far as I know, rego is still in the previous owners name (she had it transfered into her name while the car was defected)

anyway, I'm wondering if its possible to register this car from scratch? (the same as you would with an imported car from Japan)

thanks for any help.

State dependant you should be able to run the paperwork with inspection over the pits and present for rego , if its defect still shows then the machinery will clear it , but you need to speak to main roads in your state at least three times to differing people because one of them at least will get it wrong.

AmmoJammo · 10-03-2006, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MrFlibbles

gotta take it through regency park
make sure defect is fixed though and that nothing else is defectable or you gotta go through again.

or depending on age of vehicle buy a cheap $200 up matching car out of the trader and swap all plates over and simply re register it as that car... youd be surprised at how many cars are "fixed" like that here in adelaide
I DO NOT ENDORSE THE ABOVE!!

heh, this WAS a $200 car :p

it needs a second muffler put in, air intake restored to original, radiator support fixed up so the bonnet shuts, a legal gear knob, and I believe thats about it.

has already had the wheels replaced, which it was defected for aswell.

tick5.0 · 10-03-2006, 11:23 PM

In S.A. the car has to be registered to transfer ownership. If you don't transfer it within 14 days it's a small fine.

Also does the defect require you to have it cleared at a Police Station or Regency Park? If it is a Police Station defect don't sweat it too much, they normally just check what was on the notice and it's about $20. Regency Park how ever will check everything and spend around 30 minutes going over your car.

If it is a major defect requiring you to go through Regency consider how much you want the car on the road. If you need to get it some where to have the defect cleared you can get a permit from the RTA.

AmmoJammo · 10-03-2006, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tick5.0

In S.A. the car has to be registered to transfer ownership. If you don't transfer it within 14 days it's a small fine.

Also does the defect require you to have it cleared at a Police Station or Regency Park? If it is a Police Station defect don't sweat it too much, they normally just check what was on the notice and it's about $20. Regency Park how ever will check everything and spend around 30 minutes going over your car.

If it is a major defect requiring you to go through Regency consider how much you want the car on the road. If you need to get it some where to have the defect cleared you can get a permit from the RTA.

its a regency defect, but rego on the car has now expired, and I ASSUME the woman I bought the car from has cancelled rego, although, I do still have the number plates.

I will need to contact her about it.

I don't NEED the car registered, as its going to be an SPL vehicle, and I can always take it to competitions on a trailer, but I thought it might be fun to drive it around sometimes, as it looks fun to drive

MrFlibbles · 11-03-2006, 07:46 AM

dont need to worry about the rego papers as all you would need is the form to register an unregistered vehicle, but you still gotta get the defect off....

AmmoJammo · 11-03-2006, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFlibbles

but you still gotta get the defect off....

ya mean, I gotta get the vehicle roadworthy again. yes, I am aware of that :p