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Old 01-07-2022, 12:28 PM   #31
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First preference is always an unmodified car, even if you plan on modifying something yourself, better to know it's been done right yourself or by reputable places.

Unmodified stuff always has the higher price tag.
A quick look on Carsales shows G6ET's with 50K km around high $40K's-$50K. I paid around that for a new one in 2008.
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Old 01-07-2022, 12:59 PM   #32
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A quick look on Carsales shows G6ET's with 50K km around high $40K's-$50K. I paid around that for a new one in 2008.
Try buying a new one then

Compare the cost of a new VL Calais Turbo to one now.
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Old 01-07-2022, 09:48 PM   #33
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XR6's had the option of LSD and I doubt they had separate calibrations. The diff isn't going to change the way the DSC pulls the vehicle back into line. From my understanding of it anyway.
I was just scanning through the FG sales brochures here, for other reasons, and it says LSD was not an option for an FG XR6. Standard in the turbo and XR8, but not available on anything else. Even though I thought it would have been.

I know LSD was available across the the BF range, but not when fitted with a ZF for some reason. Wasn't available on the old Ghia either.

I understand how the DSC works. But I was looking at it from the perspective how how it might handle things like control when under power. Turning a corner under power will light up the inside wheel on a single spinner but might send the rear end sliding with an LSD. Just speculating there might be something different needed to handle those situations.

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FPV's were a different case on BF's because they had suspension/wheels etc that were different from XR. They had 19's and Brembo's when BF XR didn't have that option. Those 2 things do change the way the DSC would react, as it brakes individual wheels, and the 19's would have had different grip levels to the 18's.
Again I understand the FPV's were a different case. But just further speculating that IF a different DSC calibration was required financially it might not have made sense given a believed uptake.

If FPV couldn't afford to make it work across 3 years of BF vehicle production then maybe Ford decided they couldn't make it work for the G6ET.

On a side note, I found out a couple of years into owning my Force 6 that it contained the same shocks as in a basic XR6. Was rather disappointed finding that.
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Old 02-07-2022, 11:44 AM   #34
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I was just scanning through the FG sales brochures here, for other reasons, and it says LSD was not an option for an FG XR6. Standard in the turbo and XR8, but not available on anything else. Even though I thought it would have been.

I know LSD was available across the the BF range, but not when fitted with a ZF for some reason. Wasn't available on the old Ghia either.

I understand how the DSC works. But I was looking at it from the perspective how how it might handle things like control when under power. Turning a corner under power will light up the inside wheel on a single spinner but might send the rear end sliding with an LSD. Just speculating there might be something different needed to handle those situations.



Again I understand the FPV's were a different case. But just further speculating that IF a different DSC calibration was required financially it might not have made sense given a believed uptake.

If FPV couldn't afford to make it work across 3 years of BF vehicle production then maybe Ford decided they couldn't make it work for the G6ET.

On a side note, I found out a couple of years into owning my Force 6 that it contained the same shocks as in a basic XR6. Was rather disappointed finding that.
I could have sworn LSD was an option on xr6. There certainly are m78’s that have LSD for sure. Unless it dates back to BA/F.
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Old 02-07-2022, 06:32 PM   #35
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I could have sworn LSD was an option on xr6. There certainly are m78’s that have LSD for sure. Unless it dates back to BA/F.
BF MK II was the last time an LSD was offered on the XR6 sedan.

FG XR6 Ute could be optioned with an LSD. Not available on the sedan.

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For FG MK II and FGX, the XR6 Ute actually got the LSD as standard. No change to the sedan though.
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BF MK II was the last time an LSD was offered on the XR6 sedan.
Yes and no. Have to read the footnotes closely I found.

In the BF2 brochure at least, it says LSD is not available with the ZF, which used the M80 diff. Was optional on the 4 speeds and manuals, which should be the M78 3.45:1 diff.

Weirdly in the WSM it says XR6 LSD sedans got the M86 diff. Dunno how correct that is. Might be a typo or a copy and paste carry over from somewhere.

Cant find a BF1 brochure to compare.

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For FG MK II and FGX, the XR6 Ute actually got the LSD as standard. No change to the sedan though.
Confusingly for the FGX XR6 sedan its a yes and no again too.

Early FGX brochure stays LSD is standard.

Later brochure says standard on manual only, not available on auto. Again have look at the footnote.

Seems Ford were all over the shop with this.
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