Painting Concrete- advice please

[DJR David]

Greetings all, I now have 15sqm of concrete around my pool at home. I want to paint it the same colour as the house, instead of using tiles. Can I just use the same paint that was used to paint the rendered house, or do I HAVE to use proper 'path paint'

thanks

David

[MO]

The only thing I know is it should be non slip when wet.
Hope that helps a bit.

[S3SR]

Originally Posted by DJR David

Greetings all, I now have 15sqm of concrete around my pool at home. I want to paint it the same colour as the house, instead of using tiles. Can I just use the same paint that was used to paint the rendered house, or do I HAVE to use proper 'path paint'

thanks

David

house paint will come off with wear and tear...running around, rain, mould, cleaning, etc
at my mums place we used 'liquid tiles cairns' paint ...though the guy told me it would be a little cheaper sand blasting the cement and painting it
1. wont slip over
2. paint has something to grab onto
3. cheaper than this (liquid tiles)
4. you could do it yourself

sorry i forgot to ask if you could use house exterior paint

other alt was to paint the cement before putting it down...lol to late

[Pedro]

Originally Posted by DJR David

Greetings all, I now have 15sqm of concrete around my pool at home. I want to paint it the same colour as the house, instead of using tiles. Can I just use the same paint that was used to paint the rendered house, or do I HAVE to use proper 'path paint'
thanks
David

Save yourself time and money and get proper advice from a specialised paint shop like Dulux or Bristol Paint stores.

[4Vman]

Best advice is dont paint it, too many things can go wrong, especially if there's moisture in the ground which will track up through the concrete and push the coating off.
Look at one off the specialty application pool surface coatings instead.

[rodderz]

You can get such patio paints, as to how long they last I'm not sure though. You can get a concreter to apply a topping on top with a textured, coloured or rendered finish, but it will bring up the height a bit which may not suit. You can also get a floor render which is only applied roughly 10mm thick and is hard but also slightly flexible if the concrete moves.

Whatever goes on top it will have to bond properly

[tufLTD]

There's a product called Bondcrete you apply (by brush) to concrete that seals it & provides grip for the paint. My Dad (God rest his soul) used it often with very good results.

[fairmont1998]

Only thing I can add is put grit in the paint. A friend of mine has a shack on the Murray. He painted all the concrete and it was dangerously slippery when wet. After seeking advise he found a grit you add to the floor paint, redid all the concrete paint and its nice and grippy now.

[It'sTheVibe]

I painted our garage floor a while ago with 'paving paint' to match the coloured concrete in the driveway.
I was meticulous with the preparation - thoroughly etched the entire area with hydrocloric acid and followed the application instructions exactly.

It looked great.... for about a month, then patches started flaking where the cars' tyres sit and other random areas.

For a small path area, you might as well give it a go as it's cheap compared to other coverings, and the anti-slip additives are very effective. (Don't use too much as it becomes very coarse under foot.)

[thefargo]

I've heard of the brand "jet dry" which is a concrete/pathway paint. somebody said you can sprinkle sand (like a beach sand) to add grip, but I have no idea how hard wearing it is.

[Funtime25]

how about getting a quote on getting non-slip treatment for pools surrounding areas

Its a well known system that is applied by proffessionals.not expensive and is great...............

[brenx]

My dad painted his garage floor. He added sand to the paint for the "non slip". It flaked in areas after the 1st application dried. He used thinners to wipe down the flaked areas and reapplied the paint. It needed touch ups around 4 years later. He lived in that house for 15 years.

I'm 100% sure this wasn't any special concrete paint. Why? As the exterior of the house was painted from the same can (without the sand). He had no idea what he was going to do with the 10-12lt he had left. It went to good use on the garage floor. The paint was oil based paint not water based.

[DJR David]

Thanks for the help everyone. I went to a couple of paint shops today, and both recommended 'jet dry'for about $60 for 4 litres, so i might give that a go

thanks again everyone

David :disco:

[SWOOP]

I have a trade paper in this subject ,been awhile since I handled a brush but
make sure you use bondcrete as mentioned earlier ,it will bind and seal the concrete to give the paint half a chance of keying to it

dont paint yourself into a corner

[Tote]

I put down Jet dry on a new slab in my garage two years ago and expected to have issues with it flaking as they recommend that you let the concrete sit for 3 months before painting it, but if I did that it would have had oil and crap on the floor and the paint would not have stuck anyway.
I have no complaints at all with the performance of the product, plan two coats as you will need them. It does get slippery if you don't add a non-slip product to it but you can add that when you get the paint tinted.
As a contrast I painted our outside shower with the leftovers and on old concrete even after acid washing it adhesion was less than optimal.
Regards,
Tote

[4Vman]

Bond crete WILL NOT provide a solution, believe it or not Bondcrete is just waterbased PVA resin, and most solvent based coatings will not stick to it. Ive worked in the paint industry on and off for 15 years as a technical consultant on just this type of subject and can garantee you painting concrete is the single biggest issue of complaint!!
Paving paints such as Jet dry recieve more problems and complaints that any other single product, you must acid etch concrete before applying paint, (yes sometimes it will stick without but...), and if you get rising damp the concrete will for ever have peeling issues, you must stop rising damp to stop it pushing the paint off, you CANNOT stop capililary action and hydraulic presure of rising moisture, especially when the surface gets hot.
The best suggestion i can make is DO NOT use any paving style paint but get one of those new cement based colored screed coatings made to resist pool chemicals etc that will let the concrete breath but provide a thick non slip surface.

[DJR David]

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dont paint yourself into a corner [/QUOTE]


Being the pool, I can swim my way out of the corner............ :

[TUF_302]

Im a painter so i can help, What you need is Dulux WeatherMax HBR, when you have painted it the colour you want you can put some sort of fine sand over it if you like to give it a softish but non slip finish.

[philstoj]

I too am a painter by trade, and have done many concrete floors etc.
Berger jet dry is a very good product, there are also very good paints /sealers that concreters use. Because it wont get any heavy traffic (cars etc) a basic paving paint will be fine, as long as the concrete is prepared well before painting.
Another product i liked using was "tred-grip" i think it was made by viponds, this is an acrylic paint which is designed for outdoor steps, has a nice textured finish and is no slip.

[oyob2003]

I agree with 4Vman, bond crete is only used when you want to put another layer of concrete over an existing slab of concrete, "painting" around a pool area, I would not even let it enter my mind. I have used paving paint on my back verandah for years "top quality paint", but have also had to repaint once a year since. Give me a couple of days to get back to you and I will ask a friend of mine who does pool tiling and surroundings and get his advise for you, for what he thinks is your best method of attack.

[oyob2003]

Oh, jet dry and those products are oil based and I do not think your house would have been painred with an oiled based product. wait until I get back to you.

[DJR David]

thanks for the effort guys, I won't do anything until I here from you

[DJR David]

Is hould also point out that the concrete is brushed concrete, and not smooth. :

[Olympus]

I used to paint driveways for a living.
Here's exactly how we did it.

1. Make up a mix of hydrochloric acid and water in a bucket.

2. Apply this mix to the concrete with the use of a broom, make it sure you cover
every inch.(make sure the pool is covered up!)

3. Let it dry/soak in.

4. Use a high-presure cleaner to thoroughly clean the concrete. (read: every inch)
Paint will not stick to dirty concrete, it will peel off as it's attached to the dirt on
the concrete).

5. Let the concrete dry.

6. Make up a batch of thinned down paint to use as a primer. (Just pour some paint in
a seperate tin a thin it down with some thinners).

7. Let it dry

8. Apply the paint with a roller (or airless sprayer). Two coats should be fine. You can buy non-slip additives which you add to the paint before-hand and should drastically eliminate slipperyness.

Hope this helps.

Another option is spray-on-paving. Which I would recommend over painting the concrete.

[oyob2003]

Sorry I could not get in contact with my friend, but I think I would follow what Olympus had to say seeing he has done this kind of work for a living, as with all painting work preparation is the main part of the job.

[cedric]

i have an uncle that lives at tannum ,nice place. if you only have 15m to do buy some nice tiles (terracotta, sandstone, outdoor ceremic, etc.) and do a proper job of it .it will look a thousand times better and last for ever

[jonk]

I'd be wary of insurance around wet area's and painted walking surfaces. Go to swimming centres open to the public and see what they use, it ain't paint, more like an epoxy resin baked hard. You cannot succesfully paint concrete. It will need to painted/maintained forever.

If there is bugger all plastic water barrier under the slab when it was poured, you'll never get anything to bond to it except more concrete.