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Old 17-07-2006, 11:33 AM   #1
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I went to the Telstra shop today, i am looking to upgrade my mobile, i'm after a tradesman (robust) model, the 2 year old Nokia i have has not changed and is not Blue tooth, anyone know of a blue tooth tradesman model ?
I am thinking of buying it outright and going on a capped plan, they seem much better value than the business plans, i was considering importing something from the States, Are the U.S market phones able to use our sim cards etc.. ?

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Old 17-07-2006, 12:10 PM   #2
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what benefits do you think having bluetooth will get you, also I dont think most of the USA phones will work in Australia, as they run a totally different network to ours. Bluetooth is good for data transfer between phones and other devices and a cordless headset thats about it.
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Old 17-07-2006, 12:12 PM   #3
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I have my eye on a bluetooth handsfree box, it clips to the sun visor and allows one touch handsfree calls, i hate wired hands free cables.
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Your looking for a phone with a decent battery life I gather, I wouldn't worry about blue tooth car kits, go for a fixed car kit that enables the phone to recharge.
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Most of the newer phones actually have a speaker function now. which is just about as good as having a bluetooth headset, I have both and use the speaker function in the car much more than the headset. I also know if you ring telsta at the moment you can get a NEW 3G video phone (motorola V3X) for nothing if you agree to the 79 bucks month cap...which gets your about 450 worth of calls. (I just picked up two) and its a great phone. And the video calling is quite clear and good quality, also the phone has a 2 mega pixal camera and Video Camera. Bluetooth and USB Connections plus at the moment you get 2 months free Bigpond Mobile access and 100 bucks worth of free content (ringtones and premium services).
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Nokia 5140 from memory is a tradies phone.
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Old 17-07-2006, 04:59 PM   #7
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Nokia 5140 from memory is a tradies phone.

nokia 5140i is a tradies phone but dose not have bluetooth.
Im in bulk excavations and i wouldnt have any other phone. They are pretty tough and can stand up to the dust and stuff.
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I have my eye on a bluetooth handsfree box, it clips to the sun visor and allows one touch handsfree calls, i hate wired hands free cables.
I have a 6230with the blue tooth handsfree use
I have found it to be quite robust and am quite happy with it.(I am also a tradie)
only thing you need to remember with the bluetooth is to set it to invisable as there is a virus getting around wich reduces the battery life to approx. 4 hours.
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Old 17-07-2006, 06:08 PM   #9
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Nokia 5140 from memory is a tradies phone.
Thats what i have, my wifes is a 6230, i may have to swap with her.
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Old 17-07-2006, 06:44 PM   #10
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You can bring any phone in from the US as long as it is a triband phone. You will see a lot of phones these days are triband, which meen that they run the australian, american and european networks.

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The problem with dealing overseas is waranty. I would recommend you get a second hand 6310i .It has bluetooth and is fairly tough.You could probably buy a few for a cheap price if you look hard enough. Most new phones are not blokey tough phones like the old bricks.
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Most of the newer phones actually have a speaker function now. which is just about as good as having a bluetooth headset, I have both and use the speaker function in the car much more than the headset.
the phone loudspeaker is no match though for a bluetooth carkit. I use both (don't have a carkit in my car but do have a bluetooth kit in the work car) and the loudspeaker in the phone is ok at low speeds, but lousy at highway speeds.

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I have a 6230with the blue tooth handsfree use
I have found it to be quite robust and am quite happy with it.(I am also a tradie)
only thing you need to remember with the bluetooth is to set it to invisable as there is a virus getting around wich reduces the battery life to approx. 4 hours.
A small hint for the 6230 that makes it so much easier to use... get a 6230i keypad, approx $20 and makes it so much less frustrating trying to enter the menu.

as for bluetooth viris,,,, they only affect symbian o/s phones. as long as you don't accept bluetooth connections when they are offered up, nothing can happen to your phone anyway. mine is not set to invisible, but my phone's name is more than likely to have other people worried enough not to connect to me...
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Most of the newer phones actually have a speaker function now. which is just about as good as having a bluetooth headset, I have both and use the speaker function in the car much more than the headset. I also know if you ring telsta at the moment you can get a NEW 3G video phone (motorola V3X) for nothing if you agree to the 79 bucks month cap...which gets your about 450 worth of calls. (I just picked up two) and its a great phone. And the video calling is quite clear and good quality, also the phone has a 2 mega pixal camera and Video Camera. Bluetooth and USB Connections plus at the moment you get 2 months free Bigpond Mobile access and 100 bucks worth of free content (ringtones and premium services).
I was told the V3X has crap battery life....

I'm happy with my Nokia 6280, but I don't know if it would be robust enough for a tradie. For that matter, most of the 3G phones have big screens that would probably be a bit fragile.
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You would think one manufacturer would make a trade/sports phone with blue tooth, it sounds like an untapped market to me.
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I would recommend you get a second hand 6310i .It has bluetooth and is fairly tough.
I had one of these, bought second hand off ebay. After a couple of trips to the concrete getting in or out of the car it had to be repaired. After the next trip it went in the bin. Also could never get the bluetooth to work properly. Currently have a 3230, not easy to read the keypad in some light conditions, bluetooth works well with the Blueant handsfree, also has a 1.2 mega pixel camera. It has survived a couple of falls so far and is still going strong. By the way, the Blueant handsfree has only been charged 3 or 4 times since Oct last year. Not bad I reckon.
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I was told the V3X has crap battery life....

I'm happy with my Nokia 6280, but I don't know if it would be robust enough for a tradie. For that matter, most of the 3G phones have big screens that would probably be a bit fragile.

I have had mine for about 2 weeks now and I havent had an issue, but I do charge my phone everynight, I have spent several hours surfing bigpond on it, playing the dowloaded games, and using the connection to the laptop extensively, for those in an office environement it actually does come with two chargers so you would have one for the office and one home, I use my a fair bit and have only run down to the LOW BATTERY screen once. So far i couldnt fault the phone and or the services. The one thing that I find pretty impressive is that when I charge the phone its appears to be fully charged again within about 45 minutes, and actually shuts off the charging once the phone is fully charged.
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I have a 6230with the blue tooth handsfree use
I have found it to be quite robust and am quite happy with it.(I am also a tradie)
only thing you need to remember with the bluetooth is to set it to invisable as there is a virus getting around wich reduces the battery life to approx. 4 hours.
theres no 'virus' as such its just powering the bluetooth module requires extra power and uses alot so turn it off when done
i have the same phone and it was at the bottom of a pool and it still works...
99% of the time as of recent

though with phones you can just get rubber cases from ebay or phone shop...replaces the plastic with rubber, and also somewhere you can get a plastic cover (bit like heat shrink stuff) and nothing gets under it...

what Laminge said just get the car kit thing in your car so it can charge and also when you got a call it comes through your speakers....sooo as a tradie your ute would be playing the radio right...then plug phone in, put it in automatic answer, turn volume up never have to get off the roof again...hehe dont no about you talking back though
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theres no 'virus' as such its just powering the bluetooth module requires extra power and uses alot so turn it off when done
Thats funny I know a bloke who runs/owns a mobile phone shop and has had to get the virus removed from some of his customers phones.
It was also on the news a couple of years ago.
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I use the Motorola V3X, and the Motorola HF850 car kit. The phone lasts me about 3 days without charging. And that's on 24/7, no issues with it. The car kit is utilising the factory sound system, so no extension speaker needs fitting in the BA. I have a mic near the visor, and the control mounted on the ICC.



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Thats funny I know a bloke who runs/owns a mobile phone shop and has had to get the virus removed from some of his customers phones.
It was also on the news a couple of years ago.
Did you also see that while your on bluetooth, someone can tap into your phone (if there in range) and make calls from your phone with out you knowing.... I don't know it that is fact or fiction, but it is enough for me to leave my bluetooth turned off....
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Did you also see that while your on bluetooth, someone can tap into your phone (if there in range) and make calls from your phone with out you knowing.... I don't know it that is fact or fiction, but it is enough for me to leave my bluetooth turned off....
Doubt that one, for a start any bluetooth device needs either a 4 digit code or authorisation to continue, depending on whether you are transferring data, or adding a device.
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Thats funny I know a bloke who runs/owns a mobile phone shop and has had to get the virus removed from some of his customers phones.
It was also on the news a couple of years ago.
thats news to me....

i only said what i know so i dunno... theres a few geeks at JCU that play with bluetooth/wireless networks, etc and yes anything is possible... NO theres no actual wide spread 'virus' as such but some areas might have some bored people who'll try anything

only tip when using wireless and bluetooth etc.. TURN IT OFF when not it use
or use the WEP protection and use alphanumeric passwords, never accept anything you dont no...ok
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I have decided to go on the Telstra $79.00 capped plan which includes the motorola V3X, then i will buy a bluetooth in car kit, i spoke to a sales rep last night, they refuse to throw anything in with the deal, all i wanted was a car charger and a bluetooth headset, i know optus will do this on the same plan, has anyone had luck screwing some extra goodies out of Telstra ? i may try Crazy Johns, i heard they are a little more generous.
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