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Old 20-07-2006, 04:56 PM   #31
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Agreed!

No one "shoots a gun" You can fire a rifle or a pistol for that matter.
A "gun" is what the media call it because they are uneducated.
mate call you what you want but it IS a fire-arm. I work at a paintball joint and those things can be deadily if not handled with care . We have to call them "markers" at work, I still forget and call them guns now and then, because thats what they are.
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Old 20-07-2006, 05:00 PM   #32
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That place is just up the road from my house. Classy area it is. Im not surprised at all. If I see the kids running around I drive over them in 4wd.
you ever head down the wanny pub dan??? i went there every friday night until i got a mortgage, now its about once a month.





anyhoo if they get caught they should be shot with a slug gun then they will feel how "fun" it is
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Old 20-07-2006, 05:06 PM   #33
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Some people don't deserve to live. I'm guessing those shooters are probably involved with drugs or something like that, as shooting a 16 year old girl, just doing her job is a very low act. I wish the girl, and the other man all the best in their recovery from their injuries
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Old 20-07-2006, 05:07 PM   #34
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"IF" it had been an high power rifle it would have taken her head off, but it wasn't it was an air rifle, which is about as accruate as a paint ball rifle and has about the same penetration over a distance greater than 10m.

I was making the point she was not shot with a powdered round and the injury sustained was not life threatening.
i dunno how accurate your airrifle is. but mine is VERY accurate, at like 15 metres. and i doubt those guys would have been any further away. and last time i checked, the eye is like a jelly. the projectile would have travelled through it.

with a name like "gunns" i'd expect you to be more informed. obviously not.
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Old 20-07-2006, 05:08 PM   #35
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I think anyone who points a rifle or pistol ( air or powder operated )at anyone with the intent to shoot them should face the full consequences. There are such things as high powered air rifles and they are accurate ( Used for target shooting, tell me thats not accurate ) so the type of weapon is irrelevent. These are the type of people we don't want around as if they don't get caught and punished they will usually go on with this behaviour.

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Old 20-07-2006, 05:12 PM   #36
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Everyone in the workplace should have some sort of cover/insurance.
I think when I did mine (casual) there was a choice between .5, 1 and 1.5 units of cover, basically different levels of super annuation to be put away, different amounts for death cover, etc.
The employer will pay a Workcover levvy (probably a different name interstate?) which bascially covers them for compo payouts. Liken it to the 3rd party bodily you pay with your rego... workcover levvy is 1% or 2% of turnover in SA if memory serves me correctly??

They'd also have public liability, but dunno if that covers employees.

The insurance cover in your super fund is death/permanent disability cover. Basically it's life insurance that also pays out if you're diabled to the point where you cant work. Units usually represent $50k of cover. i.e. 2 units, you'll get $100k paid to kin if you're killed at work. But they'll deduct twice as much from your super to pay for it.... but its cheaper accessing through a super fund as they obtain group policies from insurers. Think of it as a group buy on life insurance lol. Some self insure, which is cheaper again but can be a problem if not manged correctly.

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Old 20-07-2006, 05:13 PM   #37
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Agreed!

No one "shoots a gun" You can fire a rifle or a pistol for that matter.
A "gun" is what the media call it because they are uneducated.

A gun has a bore of over 25.4mm or 1 inch and the act of firing a rifle is called shooting ( don't hear of drive by firing )
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Old 20-07-2006, 05:14 PM   #38
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Just to clear things up, they were shot with an air rifle. Sure it is going to hurt, but not life threating.
If she were hit near one of her main arteries, or around the temple area it could very easily have been life threatening. I know what you're saying, but we used to own an air rifle in the 90's on a farm and that thing was lethal enough..
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Old 20-07-2006, 06:02 PM   #39
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with a name like "gunns" i'd expect you to be more informed. obviously not.
Ummmm well I am an armuor in the ADF and a marksman accross all 3 services, as well as a graded sniper. So I think I am pritty informed to talk on the subject.
Yes an air rifle can be a deadly weapon and I am not denying the fact. But they are not accruate and with some of the smaller bores would be luckly to hit a fence pailing at 10m.

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A gun has a bore of over 25.4mm or 1 inch and the act of firing a rifle is called shooting ( don't hear of drive by firing )
No you don't hear that cause a "shooting" is another great term used by the media. It is an incident were a firearm was discharged.
Was Pte Kovco involved in a shooting? He was involved in a incident were a firearm was discharged.

If a firearm has a bore over 1 inch it is then classified as heavy artillery.


At noo point am I condoning what has happened, all I am saying her injuries were not life threating and if she was hit in the eye it would have been more due to being unlucky than a good shot.
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Old 20-07-2006, 06:02 PM   #40
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Unbelievable! The reason these people do such things is because IF they do get caught and they have no serious criminal history they will most likely get a slap over the wrist with our **** weak judicial system. Some of these guys get off scott free, poor Johnny was picked on in school; it’s the medication/drugs that made him do it.

In the U.S. they'd be looking at attempted murder with 20 to life for an imprisonment. I'm not suggesting this is going to stop people from doing such crimes as there seems to be no reduction with these type of crime in the states (US) but it gets these types of people off the street.
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Old 20-07-2006, 06:06 PM   #41
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Old 20-07-2006, 06:11 PM   #42
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Ummmm well I am an armuor in the ADF and a marksman accross all 3 services, as well as a graded sniper. So I think I am pritty informed to talk on the subject.
Yes an air rifle can be a deadly weapon and I am not denying the fact. But they are not accruate and with some of the smaller bores would be luckly to hit a fence pailing at 10m.



No you don't hear that cause a "shooting" is another great term used by the media. It is an incident were a firearm was discharged.
Was Pte Kovco involved in a shooting? He was involved in a incident were a firearm was discharged.

If a firearm has a bore over 1 inch it is then classified as heavy artillery.


At noo point am I condoning what has happened, all I am saying her injuries were not life threating and if she was hit in the eye it would have been more due to being unlucky than a good shot.
well good for you. but you still can't spell.

but i am still saying that some air rifles can be quite accurate, particularly the more powerful ones. and eitherway, the projectile hit right next to her eye. by chance it could have gone in.

shooting, and guns, are just general blanket terms or generalisations. and no matter how qualified you are. they still mean the same thing. and the use of the terms will depend on the context.

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Old 20-07-2006, 06:30 PM   #43
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Yes an air rifle can be a deadly weapon and I am not denying the fact. But they are not accruate and with some of the smaller bores would be luckly to hit a fence pailing at 10m.


QUOTE]I know of a bloke down the road : who has a .177 air rifle and it's point range is about 75m, this is a very very basic rifle to.

Whoever did it mightn't realize that weather it was a glock or an air rifle the law is the same.
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Old 20-07-2006, 09:21 PM   #44
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The media interviewed the girl on air this arvo, she sounded more angry than anything else, my impressions are that she will be OK and not "damaged for life" as some put it,I'm sure she could deal with the cretins that shot her!
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Good news Police have charged a 25 year Old I just saw on the news. {Although he is innocent untill proven guilty of course}
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Old 21-07-2006, 07:19 AM   #46
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Good news Police have charged a 25 year Old I just saw on the news. {Although he is innocent untill proven guilty of course}

Yeah, apprently its the guy who said he chased them away, but turned himself in.

Tried covering his butt by playing the good samaritan.
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Old 21-07-2006, 08:43 AM   #47
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whats the work cover levvy in nsw anyone know??
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Old 21-07-2006, 10:56 AM   #48
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Old 21-07-2006, 12:09 PM   #49
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I think Miss XR6 wants to know what the levvy is, not what the payouts are LOL.

Im fairly sure the levvies (and payouts/lump sums etc) are all in the NSW workers compensation legislation.
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Bloke was arrested at Moorabbin, with another bloke, apparently he claimed to be shot at first.

Still a bloody stupid thing to do, but there's a few nuts out that way ;)
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