Tranny Capers

Morgz88 · 20-06-2007, 04:08 PM

Got home last night after a 2 hour trip, car ran perfectly the whole trip.

Hadnt been home for more than 5 minutes when I realised I forgot to get milk.

Jumped back in the car and drove 2 mins to the shop and got milk.

Half way home from shop the car suddenly starts to rev out in Drive, as if it had just been put into Neutral but it was still in Drive. I'm like WTF?

Lost all gears, wouldnt engage at all.

Managed to roll home (lucky was all downhill).

Started car this morning all seemed fine till about 1 min into drive, same **** happened again.

Got a tranny kit and fluid for $70 and did the overhaul. Man was that fluid black and burnt plus only 3 liters drained out.

All running perfectly now, but how could that happen without any warning and why 5 minutes after a long trip and not during it?

Wouldnt it start to slip in drive going up a hill first if fluid is low and old?

Morgs.

AUTickford · 20-06-2007, 04:49 PM

Should be about 4.5 litres of oil in the trans because ive serviced mine a few times and thats exactly what came out each time,if the oil was really burnt you will need to service it again because the convertor would still have been full of burnt oil and it will contaminate the new oil.It sounds like there might be a leak if only 3 litres came out, check the rear seal[extension housing where the tailshaft goes in]

RG · 20-06-2007, 05:00 PM

Take it to a tranny specialist and get a full flush done on it, just make sure you tell them it already has a new filter so they don't sting you for that.

CMYAU3 · 20-06-2007, 06:18 PM

i put an oil cooler in my but could'nt be stuffed topping up the oil because its in a bit of a **** place. its been alright for the past 2 months but after i gave it a real floggn at calder. in drive from 1st to 2nd it revs out and then i have no gears. ill let it idle for about 30 sec (not that i have a choice) then it fixs itself .im getting the tranny serviced next week hopefully this fixs it. at first it was only eveyonce in while but its become a couple of times a week only in the mornings when its freezing.

Morgz88 · 21-06-2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RedXR347

Take it to a tranny specialist and get a full flush done on it, just make sure you tell them it already has a new filter so they don't sting you for that.

Could I maybe just give it anothe flush with 4 litres of fluid, or you recommend a full flush?

Was also interested in how much residual fluid was left after a drain and fill, how much fluid the convertor held.

Anyone know what is exactly involed in a full flush?

mcnamg · 21-06-2007, 09:00 PM

wasnt paying attention when i saw the title of this post thought i might have ended up on a porno forum or something

RG · 21-06-2007, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgz88

Could I maybe just give it anothe flush with 4 litres of fluid, or you recommend a full flush?

Was also interested in how much residual fluid was left after a drain and fill, how much fluid the convertor held.

Anyone know what is exactly involed in a full flush?

I think the converter holds about 15 litres so you are better off to just get the full flush done.

accurate1 · 21-06-2007, 10:05 PM

Actually the whole system only holds 10.5 litres (approx)

FGII-XR6 · 21-06-2007, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgz88

Could I maybe just give it anothe flush with 4 litres of fluid, or you recommend a full flush?

Was also interested in how much residual fluid was left after a drain and fill, how much fluid the convertor held.

Anyone know what is exactly involed in a full flush?

in a service they also chech and tighten the bands if needed if the fluid was burnt smelling pay the extra and get a pro to do it. thats far cheaper than a new or reco'd tranny according to the manual the tranny and convertor take 9L from completly empty (dry) and 4L for tranny only

JC · 22-06-2007, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by au3xr6

in a service they also chech and tighten the bands if needed if the fluid was burnt smelling pay the extra and get a pro to do it. thats far cheaper than a new or reco'd tranny according to the manual the tranny and convertor take 9L from completly empty (dry) and 4L for tranny only

Bands in an AU tranny - not what I've been told. It's all run by solenoids and valves.

Peeler · 22-06-2007, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Morgz88

Could I maybe just give it anothe flush with 4 litres of fluid, or you recommend a full flush?

Was also interested in how much residual fluid was left after a drain and fill, how much fluid the convertor held.

Anyone know what is exactly involed in a full flush?

if you have driven the car all the fluid will be dirty again
there is a cooler line under the radiator , with a connector .
drain the pan again , refill new fluid , undo the connector and place a hose on the end into a drain tub ,start it up and pump it out, till you have clean fluid usually around 12-15ltrs gets it clean , dont run for to long as the pan will run dry quickly, top up as you go, reconnect , recheck the level

FGII-XR6 · 22-06-2007, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JC

Bands in an AU tranny - not what I've been told. It's all run by solenoids and valves.

i have the workshop manual in front of me the front and rear bands are adjusted internally unlike older trannys like the c4 and borg warner 35 but they still have bands. They are now controlled electronically with solenoids etc instead of mechanically but the basic mechanical principal remains the same bands clutches and planetary gears etc ans of course we now get an extra gear and lock up torque converter. it's a matter or an old principal enhanced by modern technology

accurate1 · 22-06-2007, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JC

Bands in an AU tranny - not what I've been told. It's all run by solenoids and valves.

Who have you been talking to???????

**Silver Ghia** · 22-06-2007, 10:20 AM

Hi guys,

Have a read of this thread. Its very imformative and shows how to service and flush transmissions:

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...light=changing

Morgz88 · 22-06-2007, 12:58 PM

Any idea on the cost of a full flush from a specialist, so I can make sure I'm not being taken for a ride?

Thanks again for all the replys and info guys, it's all priceless.

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GK · 22-06-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgz88

Any idea on the cost of a full flush from a specialist, so I can make sure I'm not being taken for a ride?

Thanks again for all the replys and info guys, it's all priceless.

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I agree with all who've recommended the full flush.

I had one done on the wagon a few weeks ago, was $250.

GK

burnz · 22-06-2007, 03:34 PM

i think you to late
your clutches are fried if the oil was black!
time for a clutch pack

sly · 23-06-2007, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JC

Bands in an AU tranny - not what I've been told. It's all run by solenoids and valves.

Then how come they toughen trannies by fitting Kevlar bands?

GK · 23-06-2007, 10:38 AM

There are bands in an AU auto, but they aren't adjusted anywhere near as much as in times past. In fact they are hardly spoken of, which may explain why the idea of them even being in an AU box seems unlikely!

I got this information from Dino, the owner of a Fluidrive business, which is where I get my auto work done.

GK