acelleration of xr6 compared to NA skyline, supra, soarer

[streetracer23]

Hi
I was wondering does anybody know a site which gives you details about the car's specs. Im after specifically 0-100 times of the following vehicles.

Ford probe
non-turbo toyota supra
falcon XR6 EL/EF (high 14s?)
skyline gts r33 (the non trubo one)
lexus sc300/toyota soarer (the NA 3.0 straight 6 engine).

i ask this basically because im about to buy a EL xr6 relatively soon and while i kno the tt supra or gts-t skyline would have faster accelleration im wondering how it would stack up against the non turbo variants which I still haven't completely eliminated from my list of possibilities.

Also are there any other 6 cylinder NA similar age and price cars that I may be missing? (forget commodore, and rare cars in australia like the a31 cefiro)

Thanks for your help.

[charlie200]

carsales do but im not sure on the imports tho

[EF Futura 07]

Hi. just search google (ie, "95 Skyline Road Test") try mid-high 15's for a stock EF XR6

[EF Futura 07]

Originally Posted by charlie200

carsales do but im not sure on the imports tho

Redbook has imports

[streetracer23]

do you know where on redbook it is? because i can only get prices...

also while im here out of interest does anyone know the el xr6's fuel consumption? it would be in the 12-16km/litre band for city driving?

[nommic]

Originally Posted by streetracer23

Im after specifically 0-100 times of the following vehicles.

falcon XR6 EL/EF (high 14s?)

High 14s to 100km/h?

[DDXR6T]

Originally Posted by nommic

High 14s to 100km/h?

LOL. My thoughts also.

[streetracer23]

ah i see. that was in reference to the 0-400. so does anyone know the 0-100 since thats what im interested in?

[mean & green]

try 7.6 sec 0-100

[streetracer23]

thanks buddy.. yea u see so many of these ricey skylines and supras and the like all over our roads. today i saw an el xr6 id been looking out for one for days. and honestly you just cant compare it with the jap cars it is really that much better. Was driving my mate's probe last night the 2.5 v6 one does anyone have a rough idea of how long they take to get to 100??

[DBourne]

Originally Posted by Dan635

LOL. My thoughts also.

count me in on that one too :togo:

ford probe page: http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au...family=PSPROBE

0-100 8.5seconds

learn to use redbook.com.au and google

[sleekism]

Originally Posted by streetracer23

thanks buddy.. yea u see so many of these ricey skylines and supras and the like all over our roads. today i saw an el xr6 id been looking out for one for days. and honestly you just cant compare it with the jap cars it is really that much better. Was driving my mate's probe last night the 2.5 v6 one does anyone have a rough idea of how long they take to get to 100??

Just go to goole and type in whatever car you want and 0-100 you will always find something just watch out for getting MPH instead of KM/H.

If you REALLY want to find the 0-100 time just use the stopwatch on your phone. Don't become a brochure racer too many Commowhore drivers have emptied their pockets because the brochure told them that their VN 5 litre is faster than a XR6.

[UNR8D]

Supra use the same 2JG-ZE engine that my Lexus GS300 does, my old IS300 also the same engine was 7.7 0-100 and 15.2@97mph down the qtr, the IS300 being lighter than the supra and having a 5speed auto so expect the supra to be slower.

my GS300 has no drama's staying with BF XR6/VE SV6's and is about the weight of the supra but also has the 5speed auto.

[3vXT]

My friend bought a dead stock '96 sz-r supra earlier this year and its run a 15.0 something.

[T3ts50]

One thing you have to look at with skylines and supras is insurance. Im assuming you are on your P's, cause insurance can be very high for these cars.

[tapeworm]

5 speed EF/L XR6 is great fun to drive with torque to burn.

[gazza750]

Originally Posted by streetracer23

thanks buddy.. yea u see so many of these ricey skylines and supras and the like all over our roads. today i saw an el xr6 id been looking out for one for days. and honestly you just cant compare it with the jap cars it is really that much better. Was driving my mate's probe last night the 2.5 v6 one does anyone have a rough idea of how long they take to get to 100??

have you ever driven one of these so called ricer cars ???
if you had you would find the build quality of them SH**'s all over the fords of the same era .
i now from personal experience owning a 1993 nissan and a 1993 ford .
the nissan is quicker more fuel efficient and a hell of a lot more comfortable to drive.

[mcflux]

want quicker 0-100 in a falcon? Diff gears ftw ;)

[Dave_au]

Originally Posted by streetracer23

Ford probe

Same drivetrain as the Tx5/626 v6, expect 0-100 8.0sec, probably 0-400 high 15s, low 16s

[MAGPIE]

Originally Posted by streetracer23

do you know where on redbook it is? because i can only get prices...

also while im here out of interest does anyone know the el xr6's fuel consumption? it would be in the 12-16km/litre band for city driving?

I used to get between 12 - 12.5 L/100k out of my auto EL XR6, mainly urban driving.

[sleekism]

Originally Posted by gazza750

have you ever driven one of these so called ricer cars ???
if you had you would find the build quality of them SH**'s all over the fords of the same era .
i now from personal experience owning a 1993 nissan and a 1993 ford .
the nissan is quicker more fuel efficient and a hell of a lot more comfortable to drive.

Imports are crap they spend their whole life idling in Tokyo traffic so they are cactus by the time they arrive in Oz and then you have to put up with overpriced insurance and parts.

Not too long ago at a dyno comp some had a GTS-T skyline turbo making claims about putting out 500 horsepower at the wheels..............it put out 190hp at the wheels!

If you want Rice Power the best bet is to get an official import or a Aussie/Rice hybrid like the Ford Laser TX3 Turbo or the "fully sick" VL Turbo.

[fairBA]

Why always compare the speed of imports to Falcons and then use this to decide which is better? These imports are made for one thing, to go fast. That’s it. Like it or NOT
Why not compare the towing ability of a Supra or something relevant to the Falcon? speed is not the highest factor of the Falcon. I'm not saying that Falcons can't be fast - but with 4 doors and a big boot they are not designed for the traffic light grand prix.
2 completely different cars for 2 completely different tasks.
An EL xr would not get close to the imports, even if it did your only going to damage your Engine, Transmission, diff or all 3 where the Import (which was made for this) will do it time and time again with no problems.

[3vXT]

Originally Posted by sleekism

Imports are crap they spend their whole life idling in Tokyo traffic so they are cactus by the time they arrive in Oz ...

I try very hard to have respect for other peoples opinions but all you ever seem to post is crap like this. Are you trying to sound like an idiot or do you honestly believe the things you're posting?

[BlueRaven]

...and again i'm day dreaming of the day I'll own a Z32 300zx Twin Turbo 2+2.

[fairBA]

Originally Posted by sleekism

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Not too long ago at a dyno comp some had a GTS-T skyline turbo making claims about putting out 500 horsepower at the wheels..............it put out 190hp at the wheels!

If you want Rice Power the best bet is to get an official import or a Aussie/Rice hybrid like the Ford Laser TX3 Turbo or the "fully sick" VL Turbo.

The power figure of 206 kilowatts by Nissan for the GTS-T is very modest. The stock power is much closer to 260-280kilowatt at the flywheel.
Also, these engine are watered down. the Supra engine can handle upto to 600rear wheel HP without modifying as STOCK.
Can't really see a TX3 giving them a run, at least without mods on the laser

[gazza750]

Originally Posted by fairBA

The power figure of 206 kilowatts by Nissan for the GTS-T is very modest. The stock power is much closer to 260-280kilowatt at the flywheel.
Also, these engine are watered down. the Supra engine can handle upto to 600rear wheel HP without modifying as STOCK.
Can't really see a TX3 giving them a run, at least without mods on the laser

gts-t is 184 kw @ flywheel
gtr is 206 @ flywheel
these are the factory figures which are understated through the old Japanese gentleman's agreement
my gtr running 14 psi boost with twin pod filters and 3 1/2 in cat back exhaust runs 229 kw at all 4 wheels (approx 307 hp)
and i wasn't only referring to the speed in my other quote i was also referring to the build finish and comfort as being far superior

[fairBA]

Originally Posted by gazza750

gts-t is 184 kw @ flywheel
gtr is 206 @ flywheel
these are the factory figures which are understated through the old Japanese gentleman's agreement
my gtr running 14 psi boost with twin pod filters and 3 1/2 in cat back exhaust runs 229 kw at all 4 wheels (approx 307 hp)
and i wasn't only referring to the speed in my other quote i was also referring to the build finish and comfort as being far superior

you sure the gts-t is only had 184? which year? happy to be corrected though.
either way is got more power and less weight than the EL.

[XR6_190]

An EL XR6 (or any other XR6, SV6) will never be a match for a Skyline/ Supra etc. for performance, just in the same way that a Skyline/ Supra will never match a Falcon/ Commodore for interior space, comfort, cruising ability, towing ability, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

[sleekism]

Originally Posted by ken2903

I try very hard to have respect for other peoples opinions but all you ever seem to post is crap like this. Are you trying to sound like an idiot or do you honestly believe the things you're posting?

Why don't you pull your bloody head in mate!!

This is an open forum and I haven't attcked you so what is your problem??

My comments about Japanese imports comes from experience having owned a grey import motorcycle and having mates who have been burnt through ownership of Japanese imports.

I am simply trying to save other people from being burnt. The attraction of the Falcon is the bang for your buck value. Sure you can spend a fortune on an import and spend a fortune on insurance and a fortune on getting parts from Japan or....you can get a bread and butter Falcon and easily modify it to be competitive with the Japs and still have enough money for your other hobbies like motorcycling and boating.

Ford TE-50's and XR6 Turbos are around 20 grand now that's bloody good value. TX-3's are only a few grand and are bloody quick and most parts are easily sourced.

I'm speaking from experience and it's nothing to do with not liking Japanese cars. I am in fact a diehard buyer of Suzuki and Kawasaki motorcycles and a big fan of Mazda. From my viewpoint buying a Falcon or Commodore just makes so much sense.

Sorry for stating my opinion @$$hole

[peter_vod69]

So... much... ignorance...

As pointless as this thread is, an EL XR6 is slower stock than an NA Supra, or a Soarer. The problem with that subjective comparison is it completely ignores what each car is about. The EL is something for a family man to haul around in relative comfort with the ability to have a bit of a squirt sometimes, the Supra is a car designed for handling and power, and the Soarer is the best cruiser of the lot.

A Skyline GTS-T is faster than all of them, but not by as much as certain Nissan fanboys would have you believe, and the interior is shitty. The Supra will outhandle the others all by a long shot (but since you're only in year 10, who really cares LOLZ), The Soarer will outcruise them and the Falcon will not really do anything (performance-wise) better, besides maybe single spinner burnouts.

As for Imports "all BEIN peesses of sh** lolz cuase dey all sit in da trafik" well, you obviously haven't had a good look have you? Let alone driven any. :