If you own an Xbox360, get in here right now

[GTS_300_Coupe]

http://www.petitiononline.com/rare007/petition.html

Visit this page and sign the petition.
There's already over 16,000 signatures and there will be more with everybody's help here.

Yeah we know, petitions never work but just do it anyway it will only take you a couple of seconds and you might help everybody else out.
This petition is all over the net so, the more the better chances Microsoft and Nintendo will pay attention.

Its the least you can do, as 360 gamers.

[CFOUR]

done. good call goldeneye is the only reason i set to old 64 up occasionally

[sfr rob]

It's a shame, i have had 2 xbox 360's,. and i gave both of them back to point of purchase because they are such a bad console. PS3 is much better, I would love golden eye on ps3, it was the first taste of the gaming we have today, years ago!

[Mongoose]

holy crap, goldeneye on the 360 (as an exclusive) would absoluty destroy the ps3's sales. I still have the original sitting in my 64 under my bed!

[GTS_300_Coupe]

To the people who think online petitions dont work, Major Nelson of Xbox publicly stated today that the bulk of the emails have convinced him to forward them to the "right people".

http://twitter.com/majornelson/statuses/598714682

[CFOUR]

i have a wii, 360 and ps3. and the 360 is the best by far.
what you been smokin sfr rob

[fordel]

Why would nintendo want to put it on the 360 when they can distribute it themselves through the wii though.

[GTS_300_Coupe]

Also it would be updated for the 360 meaning 720p HD graphics, online gameplay, achievements system, etc.

[GTS_300_Coupe]

Originally Posted by fordel

Why would nintendo want to put it on the 360 when they can distribute it themselves through the wii though.

They can't though.
Nintendo own the rights to the name, RARE own the game, Microsoft own RARE.

[CFOUR]

Originally Posted by fordel

Why would nintendo want to put it on the 360 when they can distribute it themselves through the wii though.

nintendo only held distrubution rights for the 64

microsoft owns rareware the devloper and another 1 of their studios owns the licence for the next 3 007 games

[Daymoe]

Originally Posted by fordel

Why would nintendo want to put it on the 360 when they can distribute it themselves through the wii though.

Well, Microsoft seems to own RARE haha.

Don't forget about Perfect Dark! Made by the same developer and THE best game on N64... I regret trading mine in :(

[LowEL2XR8]

If this came out in HD and was revamped for the 360 I would sign it. I'm not after a re hash of old graphics thats not why I bought a 360.

[CFOUR]

it needs re-vamped graphics and dual analogue control

[fordel]

Originally Posted by fordel

Why would nintendo want to put it on the 360 when they can distribute it themselves through the wii though.

Thats cos microsoft own RARE, not Nintendo..

oh...

wait....


:P

[GTS_300_Coupe]

Originally Posted by CFOUR

it needs re-vamped graphics and dual analogue control

The game was already in development before MS had to cancel it thanks to nintendo being all selfish.
It would've received High Definition update (just like all LIVE ARCADE games) and ofcourse the 360 controller is perfect for first person shooters.

[svo347]

Originally Posted by Mongoose

holy crap, goldeneye on the 360 (as an exclusive) would absoluty destroy the ps3's sales. I still have the original sitting in my 64 under my bed!

Maybe so, but incase you didnt read the newspapers, Blueray has finally got the go ahead from mgm etc and has exclusive rights on all movies being released..

[Daymoe]

Originally Posted by svo347

Maybe so, but incase you didnt read the newspapers, Blueray has finally got the go ahead from mgm etc and has exclusive rights on all movies being released..

Nothing is really stopping Microsoft from making a Blu-ray drive for the Xbox360 if HDDVD falls through.

[Grechie]

signed.

[Josh_XC]

Hasent it already been confirmed that it will be indefinatly delayed as Nintendo are fighting it

[Daymoe]

I don't think that Nintendo can do much since Microsoft owns RARE.

[GTS_300_Coupe]

Originally Posted by 90sFTW

I don't think that Nintendo can do much since Microsoft owns RARE.

Well realistically, if MS wanted to they could still go ahead and release the game anyway. Just under a different name.

Nintendo only own the rights to the name.

[CAT600]

Originally Posted by 90sFTW

Nothing is really stopping Microsoft from making a Blu-ray drive for the Xbox360 if HDDVD falls through.

But...

Had MS backed HD-DVD with standard fitment in their console as Sony did with the Blu-Ray format, Toshiba and MS may have won the war.

Actually, The deadlocked format war is playing into MS's hands perfectly, stalling things out long enough for "movie downloads" to get a foot in the door. Whoever wins the war will still lose in the end.

BTW, all console HD playback is handicapped anyway. PS3 has HDMI 1.3, but cannot bitstream lossless audio in the TrueHD and DTS-Master codecs, while XBOX 360 only has HDMI 1.2, meaning its even worse as it has no "Deep black" function, lossless audio or 1080p/24fps playback.

Anybody wanting High-end A/V options should overlook a console, especially the 360.

Daniel

[Josh_XC]

Here is the rumour from Gamespot.

"What we heard: Few games capture a generation in the way Rare's first-person shooter GoldenEye 007 for the Nintendo 64 was able to do. Released in 1997, Rare's shooter quickly replaced Nintendo's groundbreaking Mario 64 in gamers' consoles due to its stellar multiplayer deathmatch mode, which provided an intense and addictive four-way split-screen experience and set the standard for many FPS hallmarks, including zoom-enabled sniper rifles and context-sensitive headshots.

With its place in history cemented, recent reports that Rare will be reimagining the Nintendo 64 version of GoldenEye 007 for Xbox Live Arcade aren't without interest. Citing omnipresent "very reliable sources," as well as claiming to have seen evidence firsthand, Xbox Evolved claims Microsoft, Rare, and James Bond movie studio MGM have reached an agreement that will bring the acclaimed shooter, with updated graphics and Xbox Live multiplayer support, to Microsoft's downloadable service "shortly before the new game developed by Activision is released." The Xbox Evolved report also claims that Rare has plans to rerelease other classics from its back-catalog over Xbox Live, including Perfect Dark and the original Banjo-Kazooie, both of which were also created for the N64.

Several hurdles stand in the way of GoldenEye for the Nintendo 64 being ported over. For one, Nintendo has expressed interest in bringing the acclaimed shooter to its own arcade classic depository, the Virtual Console. "Would I love to see it on [the] Virtual Console? Absolutely," Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime said of the game in 2006, continuing, "But there are a lot of issues there... Suffice it to say we would love to see it, so we're exploring all the rights issues."

One of the primary issues Fils-Aime undoubtedly meant revolved around licensing. Currently, the 007 license rests in the hands of Activision, which announced it had acquired the rights to the brand from Electronic Arts during the 2006 Electronic Entertainment Expo. However, with Activision planning to resuscitate 007 later this year with its first take on the franchise, the publisher could do much worse than rereleasing the pinnacle installment in the franchise to pique gamers' interest.

The development deal also seems likely, considering the unique status Rare maintains as a Microsoft-owned studio. Though Microsoft purchased Nintendo's stake in the UK-based developer in 2002, Rare has continued to release games for Nintendo's handheld devices. In addition to several Donkey Kong Country installments on the Game Boy Advance, Rare most recently brought its signature pint-sized gorilla to the DS in 2006 with Diddy Kong Racing DS. The developer is also planning to bring its papier-mâché garden Viva Piñata to Nintendo's popular portable later this year.

Rare also has precedents for developing on Microsoft's virtual arcade. In March, Rare released Jetpac Refuelled on Xbox Live Arcade, which is a reimagined version of its 1983 shooter classic Jetpac for the ZX Spectrum. Speculation also abounds that the developer will be creating an Xbox Live offshoot of its Viva Piñata series titled The Fast and Furriest, rumored to be a sports minigame compilation that will incorporate the Xbox Live Vision camera.

The official story: "We do not comment on rumors and speculation."--A Microsoft rep.

Bogus or not bogus?: Licensing issues are undoubtedly the hold-up for the massively popular GoldenEye's delayed arrival to this generation of gaming. However, with Activision's new game and the sequel to 2006's Casino Royale expected to hit this year, incentives seem to be piling up for bargaining concessions to take place. Likely not bogus. "

Oh i signed the petition. I want goldeneye!!

[Daymoe]

Originally Posted by CAT600

But...

Had MS backed HD-DVD with standard fitment in their console as Sony did with the Blu-Ray format, Toshiba and MS may have won the war.

Actually, The deadlocked format war is playing into MS's hands perfectly, stalling things out long enough for "movie downloads" to get a foot in the door. Whoever wins the war will still lose in the end.

BTW, all console HD playback is handicapped anyway. PS3 has HDMI 1.3, but cannot bitstream lossless audio in the TrueHD and DTS-Master codecs, while XBOX 360 only has HDMI 1.2, meaning its even worse as it has no "Deep black" function, lossless audio or 1080p/24fps playback.

Anybody wanting High-end A/V options should overlook a console, especially the 360.

Daniel

Not very many TVs can play at 24fps, I'm pretty sure that the expensive Pioneer ones do though. But for gaming the Xbox 360 is pretty good, at the moment the PS3's range of games is quite small. Maybe the MGS fans can boost their sales with the soon to be released MGS4.

[CAT600]

Originally Posted by 90sFTW

Not very many TVs can play at 24fps...

Precisely why I said "high-end A/V..."

I was thinking more along the lines of projectors, where 24fps units can be bought from 4K upwards.

It matters not to Gamers anyway, as most games are in 25/30fps or 50/60fps, depending on region format.

Daniel.

[GTS_300_Coupe]

Originally Posted by CAT600

But...

Had MS backed HD-DVD with standard fitment in their console as Sony did with the Blu-Ray format, Toshiba and MS may have won the war.

Actually, The deadlocked format war is playing into MS's hands perfectly, stalling things out long enough for "movie downloads" to get a foot in the door. Whoever wins the war will still lose in the end.

BTW, all console HD playback is handicapped anyway. PS3 has HDMI 1.3, but cannot bitstream lossless audio in the TrueHD and DTS-Master codecs, while XBOX 360 only has HDMI 1.2, meaning its even worse as it has no "Deep black" function, lossless audio or 1080p/24fps playback.

Anybody wanting High-end A/V options should overlook a console, especially the 360.

Daniel

It's true, but a bit of a smokescreen..

PS3 at the moment doesn't bitstream these formats, but it decodes the TrueHD internally and sends it as a decoded PCM 5.1/7.1 stream to your receiver. (If you have no HDMI receiver, then it is not something to worry about, and if you have, it's a headache less if your receiver doesn't have support for TrueHD, PCM is enough).
The only drawback at the moment is that it doesn't decode DTS-HD internally yet.

The question everyone needs to ask themselves is, can you even tell the difference between lossless audio and a compressed stream?

Many people think digital is an awsome way to store audio information. This is not true. With digital recordings, you must have the sampling rate at twice the highest frequency of sound you are recording if you want decent quality. This is not how it is always done. If you have a digitized sound and it does not capture everything because of the compression, you will never beable to reconstruct it 100%. It is like trying to cut a wooden board longer. You cannot get what you threw away in the analog to digital conversion.

The true audiophiles still stick with the analog systems. As old as it is, the vinyl records can have better sound quality than the digital storage media. For most people you won't notice. I can't tell the difference between them and prefer digital for the ease of use.

[CAT600]

Originally Posted by GTS_300_Coupe

It's true, but a bit of a smokescreen..

PS3 at the moment doesn't bitstream these formats, but it decodes the TrueHD internally and sends it as a decoded PCM 5.1/7.1 stream to your receiver. (If you have no HDMI receiver, then it is not something to worry about, and if you have, it's a headache less if your receiver doesn't have support for TrueHD, PCM is enough).
The only drawback at the moment is that it doesn't decode DTS-HD internally yet.

The question everyone needs to ask themselves is, can you even tell the difference between lossless audio and a compressed stream?

Many people think digital is an awsome way to store audio information. This is not true. With digital recordings, you must have the sampling rate at twice the highest frequency of sound you are recording if you want decent quality. This is not how it is always done. If you have a digitized sound and it does not capture everything because of the compression, you will never beable to reconstruct it 100%. It is like trying to cut a wooden board longer. You cannot get what you threw away in the analog to digital conversion.

The true audiophiles still stick with the analog systems. As old as it is, the vinyl records can have better sound quality than the digital storage media. For most people you won't notice. I can't tell the difference between them and prefer digital for the ease of use.

I 100% agree with you about analogue quality vs digital, but that era has passed.

That is exactly why people must aim to get the best digital audio they can:

Bitstream 7.1

The Onkyo TX-SR875 I just bought, recieving bistream from my $600 Sammy BD-P1400 bluray player, has absolutley the best sound qualty i've ever heard from a home theatre. The rear channel effects are nothing short of gob-smacking, and I cannot help but wonder what ambience the Silent Hill's and Doom's of the gaming world would give you with a TrueHD bitstream track on board your $110 piece of plastic.

I just think the timing was close enough that MS and Sony could have given us the full 1.3 spec.

[GTS_300_Coupe]

Originally Posted by CAT600

I just think the timing was close enough that MS and Sony could have given us the full 1.3 spec.

There will most likely be another console iteration in its lifespan that will support this for both companies.
The original PS2 was revised multiple times over its 7 years to include better video/audio support, but most of these revisions nobody took any notice of.

[CAT600]

Originally Posted by GTS_300_Coupe

There will most likely be another console iteration in its lifespan that will support this for both companies.
The original PS2 was revised multiple times over its 7 years to include better video/audio support, but most of these revisions nobody took any notice of.

A fair point.

I got pretty hung up on it when MS released the 'Elite' version with HDMI, only to find it had HDMI 1.2 (in 2007 FFS!) and instantly resolved me to can the thought of trading my non-HDMI 360 (with a heap of old games) in on a PS3, then buying an 'Elite' 360 with an HD-DVD drive add-on.

This would have covered both HD formats and two variants of consoles for a total cost of just $1400.

Glad I bought the stand alone BD player and the Onkyo, I'm in Audio heaven!

Daniel

[Jock260]

Halo 3 is the new golden-eye.

Dont worry, i still voted for it.