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Old 15-02-2008, 02:20 PM   #1
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Question Are Panelbeaters the worst with completion dates

i know engine builders are slow at getting things done but Panelbeaters would have to be the worst at getting work done on time or what ????What other trades are as bad ??????????

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Old 15-02-2008, 02:53 PM   #2
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Builders by far - I cant see a Panel beater delivering 7 months after the date they advised the car would be ready. But it happens in the building industry
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Old 15-02-2008, 03:44 PM   #3
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i know engine builders are slow at getting things done but Panelbeaters would have to be the worst at getting work done on time or what ????What other trades are as bad ??????????
It can be due to many factors why they take there time, parts that are arrived that are wrong, parts not ordered at all, paint rework , problems with the insurance company? etc

If its the restoration side of things, almost always there not done on time..
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Old 15-02-2008, 04:21 PM   #4
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Panel beaters never finish their job in time. Period.
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Old 15-02-2008, 04:23 PM   #5
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some do a crap job and u have to send it back making the whole deal a lot longer ...why give a car back to the customer with PAINT RUNS!!!!!!
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Old 15-02-2008, 04:36 PM   #6
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Resto's tend to run over,smash work should tick along and be done on time,most of the time.
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No drama's with pano's here. My problem is with mechanics who take over a year to rebuild an engine then don't complete it. See mini link below.
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ugh, most of my work is on time. It comes down to parts not arriving, additional damage and/or R&R work, paint problems etc. That can slow down a job, but most of the time the shop i work for get cars out on time.

On the flip side there is customers who come to pick there car and don't have money etc.

Restoration drag out because its a Smash repair shop, the primary focus is on repairing cars. Most restoration jobs are done when there is downtime, and they also fiddly. And customers can be a pain aswell, we've had a HX at work for 3 years now, one year nothing happend because we had no bonnet to aling the front end, we finaly got a bonnet, but waited another 4 months for the hinges...
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Builders by far - I cant see a Panel beater delivering 7 months after the date they advised the car would be ready. But it happens in the building industry

Builders are bound to penalties in the contract for these situations.
The guys that build my car are not. :
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Old 15-02-2008, 06:23 PM   #10
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hansens tyre and mechanical/RACQ in emerald is the slowest by far..... had my brothers ute since before chrissy, putting new oil pump gear in it and it was only touched last week, not to mention it took them 3 months to put a AUX input shaft in, poor kid is a apprentice carpenter and gets around by the one workshop,
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yes we do finish jobs on time. so its just that u arent going to the right people
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yes we do finish jobs on time. so its just that u arent going to the right people
Yep, make choice of repairer, builder, whatever carefully - never had an issue myself
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True. Mine took 2 weeks longer than the 1 week it was promised! They stuffed up too ... runs in the paint and a completely different silver.
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Old 15-02-2008, 07:20 PM   #15
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I cant stereotype the whole trade from one experience but I'll tell you I waited close to 5 months for a respray that was promised to be done in 1 month, everytime i went to check up on the car I was told "yeah it'll be done next week", it was frustrating the sh!t outta me since all the parts where there it was just a matter of getting the car painted
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Old 15-02-2008, 07:27 PM   #16
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Resto's tend to run over,smash work should tick along and be done on time,most of the time.
That would be case most of the time but as in some just released imported cars certain panel parts might have to be imported so it could run into weeks before the job is completed.
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go work in a panel shop and then see the that happens there. if you think a respray is going to take a month bring it to me and i will slap it together in a month! ive worked in panel shops and its like any trade if there is not enough workers your finished! spare parts is another problem at one shop i worked at we waited 9 months for toyota to release a bloody rear crossmember for a toyota camy!
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go work in a panel shop and then see the that happens there. if you think a respray is going to take a month bring it to me and i will slap it together in a month! ive worked in panel shops and its like any trade if there is not enough workers your finished! spare parts is another problem at one shop i worked at we waited 9 months for toyota to release a bloody rear crossmember for a toyota camy!
I can see how a bare metal respray and the beater having to take the car apart would take ages but I was only getting a good rub down/spray over with the car allready taken to bits so a month should have covered it no worries, I started a traineeship in panel beating/painting and with all due respect to the beaters here I couldnt stand the job, but thats just personal opinion
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i hate to annoy any spray painter out here but its usually a delay in *good* painting conditions that slows a job down...or so they say
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easy to rectify , when doing a resto job dont set a date
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If its the restoration side of things, almost always there not done on time..
Speaking from personal experience there Darren :

Smash repair work does get in the way of Resto's, there's no doubting that. Alot of the work that I have done in the past 4yrs could have been finished ALOT quicker if it wasn't for the quick money from accident damaged cars.

Specialist Resto shops cost that little bit more *cough* but your paying for the honour of having your car worked on at every available chance. Expect outside variables to come into it as well, absenteeism is a killer for small workshops.
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Not mine, I have always had my work done there on time, and sometimes earlier...
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I dropped my car off in May 2000 and the panel beater (restorer) said pick up September 2000. Picked up October 2002. I paid $5000 for him to start, and the balance when finished.
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I think its a case of both parties being unrealistic in most case's Panel beaters telling people what they want to hear and customers not being able to understand the time that is needed to do the job.

I also find that the longer that they have to do a job the longer they think that they can leave it in the corner before starting it.

These problems that you all have had are the same reasons why I became a spray painter myself so I now no longer need to deal with being let down any more
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they get the cars start then go onto other cars and for coclor matching that s another story !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Builders are bound to penalties in the contract for these situations.
The guys that build my car are not. :
Yeah but there are ways around that (which I found out the hard way - long story - a lot of my mates are builders and I wish I built with them - didnt because I know the building process can stretch friendships - anyway I have learnt my lesson)
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My BA XR8 Ute went in to crash shop on July 16 07. needed new front bumper, rear bumper, drivers side front gaurd, bonnet, diff, hard top, damage was caused to drivers side of tub, tail gate, left front gaurd. so i decided to respray the whole ute to make sure there were not going to be any paint matching problems. They have not had to order any body kit parts as i supplied them with a complete Genuine FPV body kit to fit.
I was told last Friday that it should be going into the spray booth this week, the thing that does get to me but i feel that i cant say anything is the amount of cars that have come and gone since mine has been there, these cars have only been smaller jobs but surely they have to join the list. I think this is the problem with Country towns as we have 3 crash shops and this 1 is better than the other 2 and they also get work from outside of town so they are always flat out.
I know i am going to get a great job when it finally does get done but i am getting sick of driving around in a EA 6 cylinder Wagon that i had to go out and buy last year in november as i still didnt have the Ute back and it was causing to many arguments borrowing one of my Parents cars all the time.
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No problems with my repair shop. Happy to give a recommendation to anyone looking for a good place in Revesby (sthn - sth/west Sydney). PM me.

They replaced every panel following a hail claim within 3 weeks, faultless repair and no rattles from the interior refit, even after 2 years/50K with some dirt road driving and on time.

2nd claim for 'keying' was similarly well done.

They have done family cars too and always top quality, and on time.
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