Feb v-facts

RATT · 05-03-2008, 05:56 PM

Fiesta --- 723
Focus --- 1310
Focus CC --- 29
Mondeo --- 392
Falcon --- 2520
Fairlane --- 16
Territory --- 1299

Falcon ute --- 1207
Ranger 4x2 --- 862
Ranger 4x4 --- 626

Overall month 9405 as apposed to 9110 same time last year. Yr to date 17081 vs 16611 last year.

Ghiadude · 05-03-2008, 06:07 PM

wonder how the competition went though??? particularly the corolla and mazda 6 as well as kluger

MarkIV · 05-03-2008, 06:11 PM

Fiesta still disappointing. Ranger (combined) is now our second top seller after Falcon! Mondeo????

**Polyal** · 05-03-2008, 06:20 PM

The ranger is a pretty cool truck, looks great in black.

How did the commy go?

MISTA FIESTA · 05-03-2008, 06:20 PM

Great to see Fiesta + Focus moving up compared to previous results (if i recall it was about half maybe same time last year). The higher than normal results might have something to do with the "everyone is different" advertisment on TV.

Its just a matter of time that peeps realise what they are missing out on compared to its rivals.

HenryV8 · 05-03-2008, 06:23 PM

2,520 Falcons...and that's with the runout deals happening.

392 Mondeos is pretty disappointing too. I attribute this to the non-existent marketing - it's not as though there is anything wrong with the car.

XR Martin · 05-03-2008, 06:36 PM

Pretty sure 392 Mondeos is a good result. Sounds like they are selling all they can get their hands on because I remember reading they only import 300 a month?

Deadman · 05-03-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HenryV8

I attribute this to the non-existent marketing - it's not as though there is anything wrong with the car.

They have those really crappy ads on TV, I see them all the time. You know the ones with the dumb quotes from celebrities and then the line "The new Ford Mondeo, more than just good looks..."

So I wouldn't say it's non-existent - just very bad. But it's Ford, no supprises really... I wonder if they're still using the same marketing department they had when the Model-T was released... (and yes I hope they're reading this!!! :P)

I don't think the Falcon result is that bad for this time of year, with the FG just a stone's throw away...

AUXRVIII · 05-03-2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HenryV8

2,520 Falcons...and that's with the runout deals happening.

392 Mondeos is pretty disappointing too. I attribute this to the non-existent marketing - it's not as though there is anything wrong with the car.

From what I've been told most Mondeo customers want the diesel and as usual, supply is a bit light on.

FordFella · 05-03-2008, 08:03 PM

I wouldn't call it disappointing - pretty good considering how old the range is. Remember, everyone knows the FG exists now - unless you hated it (which you shouldn't) who would buy a BF? Fiesta sales are good, as are Focus. This must be the best month in a while actually...

DanielXR8 · 05-03-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HenryV8

2,520 Falcons...and that's with the runout deals happening.

392 Mondeos is pretty disappointing too. I attribute this to the non-existent marketing - it's not as though there is anything wrong with the car.

I attribute it to a great car being sold by a poor quality dealer network.

All Ford models should be selling better.

marcosambrose · 05-03-2008, 08:50 PM

Mondeo will take a while to get started... dont forget the new 6 and accord will offer some stiff competition.

new focus and fiesta out next year so things are looking rosey.

Auslandau · 05-03-2008, 08:55 PM

Mondeo has also been affected by the up coming FG. Being only slightly smaller many ready to buy have held off waiting for the comparison in pricing and design. Predictions were around 300 per month so not doing to bad.

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Windsor220 · 05-03-2008, 09:10 PM

Is it possible somebody can get the list of the top 20 cars?

Where can we get this info from for future reference?

ED Classic · 05-03-2008, 10:18 PM

Stick a Diesel In Territory and that will probly go to 2000 easy.

2500 Falcons is terrible with runouts incl

RATT · 05-03-2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DanielXR8

I attribute it to a great car being sold by a poor quality dealer network.

All Ford models should be selling better.

Not correct.

Falcon being in runout mode this time means carefully planned production. Production numbers were basically finalised late last year. This meant that production was cut to suite what dealers can sell. There is no point in having thousands of Falcons gathering dust well into FG.

Holden
Barina --- 1289
Astra --- 1366
Viva --- 715
Epica --- 470
Commodore --- 4313
Ute --- 1453
Captiva --- 932
Rodeo 4x2 --- 497
Rodeo 4x4 --- 793

Total 12386 vs 13083 last Feb

Light:
Toyota Yaris --- 2280
Hyundai Getz --- 1605
Holden Barina --- 1289
Mazda 2 --- 1272
Suzuki Swift --- 1199
Honda Jazz --- 1072
Kia Rio --- 758
Ford Fiesta --- 723
Nissan Micra --- 614
Volkswagen Polo --- 603

Small:
Toyota Corolla --- 4191
Mazda 3 --- 2825
Mitsubishi Lancer --- 1682
Honda Civic --- 1665
Volkswagen Golf --- 1462 (!!)
Holden Astra --- 1366
Ford Focus --- 1310
Subaru Impreza --- 1225
Nissan Tiida --- 895
Holden Viva --- 715

Medium:
Toyota Camry --- 1723
Mazda 6 --- 931
Subaru Liberty --- 728
Holden Epica --- 470
Honda Euro --- 450
Ford Mondeo --- 392
Volkswagen Passat --- 161
Volkswagen Jetta --- 124
Alfa Romeo 159 --- 88
Hyundai Sonata --- 81

Large:
Holden Commodore --- 4313
Ford Falcon --- 2520
Toyota Aurion --- 1855
Mitsubishi 380 --- 471
Honda Accord --- 307

Medium SUV:
Toyota Kluga --- 1404
Ford Territory --- 1299
Toyota Prado --- 1262
Holden Captiva --- 932
Mitsubishi Pajero --- 525
Mazda CX-9 --- 489
Subaru Tribeca --- 264
Nissan Pathfinder --- 205
Hyundai Santa Fe --- 180
Kia Sorento --- 167

That's all for tonight..

Windsor220 · 05-03-2008, 11:07 PM

Thanks for that.

It surprises me that all of the Daewoo Holdens are outselling Fords small cars. Whats wrong with people.

Mark351 · 05-03-2008, 11:15 PM

Is that the first time Kluger has outsold Territory?

uranium_death · 06-03-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Torxteer

Thanks for that.

It surprises me that all of the Daewoo Holdens are outselling Fords small cars. Whats wrong with people.

They're just trying to support Australian Industry

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rodderz · 06-03-2008, 12:39 AM

Wonder if Holden will lose sales of the Rodeo once it changes it's nameplate to Colorado, after losing the right to use the nameplate due to selling off Isuzu

ea90gl · 06-03-2008, 02:46 AM

talk about Toyota wiping the floor in sales, has anyone figured out why they're so dominant? yes people have this big thing about them being sooo reliable cause "they new an old mate that had a corona that ran on whiskey and never died", any other reason why they sell so much

LeadFoot81 · 06-03-2008, 09:18 AM

Brand recognition and reputation, good dealer network, great resale. Thats why Toyotas sell. And how mamy times have you heard someone say "i bought a Toyota, and it was a pice of %^&*" (?)

RATT · 06-03-2008, 09:43 AM

Perception of quality is what it is.

RATT · 06-03-2008, 10:00 AM

Just for interests sake:

Sports cars $80-$200k:
BMW 3 series Coupe/Conv --- 238
Audi TT --- 101
Mercedes Benz CLK --- 75
Audi A5 --- 43
Volvo C70 --- 33
Porsche Boxter --- 15
Porsche Cayman --- 14
Audi Conv --- 14
Mercedes Benz SLK --- 12
BMW Z4 --- 11

Sports cars over $200k:
Porsche 911 --- 47
Maserati --- 19
Audi R8 --- 12
BMW 6 Series --- 11
Ferrari --- 11
Mercedes Benz CL --- 8
Jaguar XK8 --- 7
Aston Martin Coupe --- 6
Aston Martin Conv --- 5
Lamborghini --- 5
Mercedes Benz SL --- 2

tapeworm · 06-03-2008, 10:10 AM

The old lady get showered with Roses etc. when she has her Camry fixed at Toyota, whilst the old man cops sly 'WTF are you doing here' glances from ciggie weilding staff at the Holden dealership, sums it up pretty much.

Real shame some of the stats where the Daewoo is outselling cars that are sooo much better it's not funny, as has been said, the public feel good about supporting an all aussie product, lol.

RATT · 06-03-2008, 10:21 AM

People don't value the made in Australia tag anymore. Infact some see it as a bad thing!

ED Classic · 06-03-2008, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RATT

People don't value the made in Australia tag anymore. Infact some see it as a bad thing!

Agree 100%

Had someone tell me how good Japenese is and no one can match them. He didnt beleive me when I said his Corolla wasnt made there like the older ones.

SB076 · 06-03-2008, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RATT

People don't value the made in Australia tag anymore. Infact some see it as a bad thing!

A lot of people dont know - most people on here are enthusiasts so we take it for granted that everyone knows a cars origin - A lot of people I talk too have no idea - My mates girlfriend was interested in a Captiva, because she loves Holdens - I advised her, that is actually a Daewoo re badged as a Holden - she thought that because it wears the Holden badge its an Aussie car.

But you are correct a lot of people dont value the made in Aus tag - would be interesting to know how many dont value it or how many are completely oblivious to where the car is made.

sleekism · 06-03-2008, 01:09 PM

I think the Falcon isn't going too bad as it's in runout. The Aurion is too close for my liking though.

I have my fingers crossed the the "European" FG Falcon will go gangbusters when released.

In Britain Ford is a well respected brand often assosciated with "prestige", "quality" and "performance". Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Ford the best seller in Britain.

I hoping that the "european" connection they have been trying to breed since the AU will start to pay dividends.

We will have to face the facts. New car buyers these days aren't "Australian" anymore. They are euro-culture upper class wannabes. They aspire to own a BMW but if they can't afford it they want a "euro-styled" Corolla.

I can't believe the Aurions sell. We have fleet Aurions at work and one of the managers has atop of the line luxury Aurion. They are both the freakin same: same engine, same transmission the only difference I have picked so far is leather seats??

Thank God Toyotas days are numbered. Their bland product philosophy will see them eaten alive by the Koreans and Chinese who are improving at break neck speed and the likes of Hyundai STILL build performance cars unlike Toyota.

Poetic Justice · 06-03-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sleekism

I can't believe the Aurions sell. We have fleet Aurions at work and one of the managers has atop of the line luxury Aurion. They are both the freakin same: same engine, same transmission the only difference I have picked so far is leather seats??

Thank God Toyotas days are numbered. Their bland product philosophy will see them eaten alive by the Koreans and Chinese who are improving at break neck speed and the likes of Hyundai STILL build performance cars unlike Toyota.

Get your head out of the sand would ya? How is your analogy any different to that of an FG XT and an FG G6? The pure difference is that Toyota offer the best of the mechanical package at its lower level and don't suffer the lower buying level.

The Presara has a great amount of things in it, a few that even the FG G6E should have but it wont - satellite navigation and reverse camera anybody?

As for the second half of that comment, days are numbered? Toyota are the automotive powerhouse of the world, and will remain that way for some time to come. If they see they need sports cars, you'll see them - as displayed at MMS with the FT-HS there to gain response to a hybrid powered sports car.