Dealer Charges

apstar · 20-04-2008, 11:22 AM

How in the hell can they charge $1695 for deliverly charges! so what do they do for this money

cheers apstar

Katoomba · 20-04-2008, 11:33 AM

Rip you off as far as I'm concerned. What the hell is the dealer there for except to sell and deliver vehicles?

What other retail products have this scam added?

apstar · 20-04-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Katoomba

Rip you off as far as I'm concerned. What the hell is the dealer there for except to sell and deliver vehicles?

What other retail products have this scam added?

Mate agree with you,saw 3 new cars in the holding yard all ready to go cleaned he told me they have to check the car out and this takes time I told him to stuff it that price is almost the price for leather I wanted bloody hell talk about rip off then again if people pay it they will charge it and it seems non negotiable

cheers apstar

XtRmn8 · 20-04-2008, 11:49 AM

I agree it is a rip off.

apster are you in WA by any chance?

zetec · 20-04-2008, 11:51 AM

Everything's negotiable. Every Dealer charges it.

XtRmn8 · 20-04-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by zetec

Everything's negotiable. Every Dealer charges it.

Not my dealer. But then again I think I got a very good deal, other dealers could not even come close.

apstar · 20-04-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by XtRmn8

I agree it is a rip off.

apster are you in WA by any chance?

No Sydney oh another thing is stamp duty[another rip off] is that payable only on the RRP of the vehicle so if you get bluetooth & leather seats do you have that added to the RRP?

cheers apstar

XtRmn8 · 20-04-2008, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by apstar

No Sydney oh another thing is stamp duty[another rip off] is that payable only on the RRP of the vehicle so if you get bluetooth & leather seats do you have that added to the RRP?

cheers apstar

Stamp duty is paid on RRP regardless of what other options you get. For example we paid $1750 for stamp duty on the RRP of $34990 for a Zetec, but we got the car for much less then RRP.

Options do not count, so if you get bluetooth, prestige paint and leather you still only pay stamp for the RRP.

Thats how it is in WA, not sure about eastern states.

apstar · 20-04-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by XtRmn8

Stamp duty is paid on RRP regardless of what other options you get. For example we paid $1750 for stamp duty on the RRP of $34990 for a Zetec, but we got the car for much less then RRP.

Options do not count, so if you get bluetooth, prestige paint and leather you still only pay stamp for the RRP.

Thats how it is in WA, not sure about eastern states.

Ok thanks Xt I may have a cool off period,then attack again in a few weeks

cheers apstar

XtRmn8 · 20-04-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by apstar

Ok thanks Xt I may have a cool off period,then attack again in a few weeks

cheers apstar

If you can find an 07 plated car that is what you want you should be able to do a very very good deal. Not sure if it matter to you or not.

We got a 12/07 plated car and basically saved $5500 off RRP drive-away with the options we got. The car is brand new and has 30km on it, but the saving is huge.

Good luck.

apstar · 20-04-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by XtRmn8

If you can find an 07 plated car that is what you want you should be able to do a very very good deal. Not sure if it matter to you or not.

We got a 12/07 plated car and basically saved $5500 off RRP drive-away with the options we got. The car is brand new and has 30km on it, but the saving is huge.

Good luck.

lol you know how to stir me up ;) the salesman showed me a 12/07 and told me its the current model which I said yeh I know but its 07 plated he insisted it made no difference its still new so I told him if I buy it and came back in 6 months time he would give me a trade in figure based on a 08 plated car errr,eerrr "I think you are being silly" that's when I told him to stick it

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cheers apstar

Katoomba · 20-04-2008, 07:30 PM

I'm not saying there were none around but in March when we bought ours (12/07 plate) there weren't any 08s to be had despite a big search. We were told this was because the time lag between building and landing in Australia was 3-4 months.

cupic · 20-04-2008, 08:05 PM

The charge is a scam
Truckies get a payment of roughly 1 car to deliver 6

so the dealership get 5x1695=8475 And the truckie get 1695

Dont pay it

apstar · 20-04-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Katoomba

I'm not saying there were none around but in March when we bought ours (12/07 plate) there weren't any 08s to be had despite a big search. We were told this was because the time lag between building and landing in Australia was 3-4 months.

Yeh BUT I think they are telling people porkies so that they can get rid of 07 plated first JMHO may be wrong

cupic no way mate I will be paying that much
cheers apstar

csv8 · 25-04-2008, 04:52 PM

BMW $2500 dealer delivery etc. Chrysler charge $5k !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

zetec · 26-04-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by apstar

Ok thanks Xt I may have a cool off period,then attack again in a few weeks

cheers apstar

In NSW you pay Stamp Duty on the final price, not on RRP. Options are included.

apstar · 09-06-2008, 05:13 PM

Went car hunting again today just what the frigin bastards have increased delivery charges!!

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New South Wales
Phone : 13 22 13
Dealer delivery : $ 1,995
3rd party insurance : Arrange by customer
CTP/Green slip : $ 335.00 to $ 465.00
Number plate fee : $ 34.00
Registration (per annum)
Private : $ 202.00 to $ 354.00
Business : $ 297.00 to $ 539.00
Stamp duty
portion of price below $45,000 : 3.0%
portion of price above $45,000 : 5.0%

apstar

ian b · 09-06-2008, 08:43 PM

My dealer wanted $2500, until I told him I was entitled to fleet discount through my employer.
He dropped without fuss to less than a third. Even that seemed steep for them to collect it from the docks.

Seems like a way of clawing back the money discounted on the original deal offered to get a sale.

Abacus · 09-06-2008, 08:54 PM

All this talk about delivery charges, whether they are justified, etc, is just so much bollocks,

There are only two numbers you need to think about:

- If you are buying the car outright, it's the drive away price

- if you are trading a car, it's the changeover price.

I never understand why peole get so hung up on dealer delivery. It's just one of the components in the equation. Shop around, get the best drive away price or changeover price you can.

It doesn't really matter what the any specific dealer charges for base price, fee options, delivery, etc. It's what comes out of your pocket when the deal is finalised that matters.

Smoke Pursuit · 09-06-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Abacus

All this talk about delivery charges, whether they are justified, etc, is just so much bollocks,

There are only two numbers you need to think about:

- If you are buying the car outright, it's the drive away price

- if you are trading a car, it's the changeover price.

I never understand why peole get so hung up on dealer delivery. It's just one of the components in the equation. Shop around, get the best drive away price or changeover price you can.

It doesn't really matter what the any specific dealer charges for base price, fee options, delivery, etc. It's what comes out of your pocket when the deal is finalised that matters.

Correcto!

paulie0735 · 09-06-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Abacus

All this talk about delivery charges, whether they are justified, etc, is just so much bollocks,

There are only two numbers you need to think about:

- If you are buying the car outright, it's the drive away price

- if you are trading a car, it's the changeover price.

I never understand why peole get so hung up on dealer delivery. It's just one of the components in the equation. Shop around, get the best drive away price or changeover price you can.

It doesn't really matter what the any specific dealer charges for base price, fee options, delivery, etc. It's what comes out of your pocket when the deal is finalised that matters.

Finally some common sense in this thread! How they carve up the margin is totally irrelevant, as stated above its the amount you pay not how they distribute the costs.

apstar · 09-06-2008, 11:46 PM

First I not hung up about it!, I was pointing out a price for a service that I think is a rip-off,just like the price of petrol or diesel people still fill up their cars doesn't stop them from bitching about it.

apstar

ian b · 10-06-2008, 12:44 PM

All negotiated deals are determined by who can set the "anchor price" first. If the dealer can use an inflated delivery charge to set his anchor price higher then it makes it harder for the customer to drive the price back down again.
Any subsequent reduction in "drive away price" is distorted by the overstatement of the delivery costs. So you think you got a better deal than you have.
Bottom line if you can't improve the deal, either pay up or walk away to the next dealer. But make sure the next dealer can offer a better deal before you walk away from the first. (Known at BATNA "best alternative to a negotiated agreement")

apstar · 12-06-2008, 07:43 PM

Well started to look around today and here is what I found see if you can break up the price that the salesman told me both cars are a "STEAL" oh and both are drive away prices... no more to pay

Mondeo XR5 Hatch drive away price $39,067.........save $7500

Mondeo TDCi Sedan 10,000Km,Leather seats,no Bluetooth drive away price $36,264.... save $8700

apstar

paulie0735 · 12-06-2008, 09:38 PM

At 10,000k's the TDCi is not a demo its a second hand car!

SteveH · 13-06-2008, 07:51 AM

$39,067- for a brand new Mondeo XR5 on the road seems like an absolute bargain. Everywhere I go I seem to get the old saying that there is not much room for movement in the price.

Is that price with a choice of colour as well?

paulie0735 · 13-06-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveH

$39,067- for a brand new Mondeo XR5 on the road seems like an absolute bargain. Everywhere I go I seem to get the old saying that there is not much room for movement in the price.

Is that price with a choice of colour as well?

Demo I suspect??

Nappa · 13-06-2008, 11:53 AM

as far as i know dealer delivery also contributes to the Pre Delivery of the car.
the standard dealer delivery charge for fords/holdens/toyota's is anywhere from 1495 to 1795. In some cases people have many different bits and peices fitted to their car. Take a tradie's van for instance. It might have a nudge bar, tow bar, roof racks, bonded window. gas conversion, tint, cargo barrier and a lot more. Tint and gas need to be outsourced and the van will be trucked there and back, that costs money. Then you have to spend many man hours at PD fitting the other stuff.

I know it may seem like a bit of a rip off if all you want is a standard car. but every new car sold has it charged. What matters is the final price or changeover.

apstar · 13-06-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by paulie0735

Demo I suspect??

correct with 5000km

apstar

SteveH · 21-06-2008, 10:26 AM

I was wondering how people are going with prices for the new Mondeo XR5. I am being told pretty much that the RRP is what they are selling for, but I was wondering if anyone is doing any better. I was also wondering if the waiting times have come down, or if it is still months for particular colours.