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19-06-2009, 05:50 PM | #1 | |||
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While not the best result there was a big write off but they have reduced their operating loss.
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19-06-2009, 05:51 PM | #2 | |||
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19-06-2009, 05:53 PM | #3 | |||
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Car advice report
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19-06-2009, 05:57 PM | #4 | ||
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'The age' loves to lay the boot in doesn't it? :
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19-06-2009, 06:00 PM | #5 | |||
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19-06-2009, 07:21 PM | #6 | ||
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Ford's Australian operations lost a record $274.4 million in 2008, triple the previous year's deficit, as sales slumped and the car maker topped up employees' superannuation funds.
The company's sales shrank 7.4 per cent in 2008 to $3.06 billion, the company said in its annual report. Net sales fell about 5 per cent, to $3.29 billion, with vehicle sales dropping 5319 units to 108,564 last year. The result reflects slowing demand for large cars and the impact of the global financial crisis in the second half of last year. Ford president Marin Burela recently admitted the launch of its all-new Falcon sedan last April had got off to a slow start. A new model usually enjoys a honeymoon period of higher sales, but Falcon sales finished last year 6 per cent down on 2007. A perennial top-two seller for decades, the Falcon slipped behind the Toyota Corolla and Mazda3 small cars last year for the first time. The new Falcon also failed to close the sales gap on its main large car rival, the Holden Commodore. At the same time, Ford's other locally-produced vehicle, the Territory off-roader, fell out of favour with buyers, recording a 25 per cent drop in sales. Overall Ford sales finished the year down 3 per cent in 2008. Sales have deteriorated further this year, falling 18 per cent in line with the overall market. Falcon sales have proved more resilient, though, falling just 2 per cent, which has allowed Ford to increase its market share slightly. Burela said the company had trimmed costs and improved efficiency throughout its business. ''We are continuing to improve our business fundamentals and implement our strategic plan as we move through 2009,'' he said. 'Challenging year' Ford will build a new small car, the Focus, in Australia from 2011 as it attempts to re-shape its business to suit shifting buyer preferences. "This was a challenging year as the Australian market was affected by the global economic slowdown, but Ford Australia's underlying business continued to improve with strong new vehicle launches and our continued progress in lowering costs and gaining efficiencies," said Mr Burela in a statement. Ford now lags a distant third in local vehicle sales, behind Toyota and General Motors' Holden. The company has been hurt by its reliance on larger vehicles, such as its six-cylinder sedans and Territory four-wheel drives, as higher fuel prices prompt buyers to switch to smaller cars. The losses included a one-time restructuring cost of $162.18 million, compared with no such deduction in 2007. The declining stock exchange also meant the company had to set aside a further $151.12 million for employees' defined benefit retirement fund, the company said. In the previous year, Ford needed just $369,000 to top up local super funds. Ford and the other two car makers are recipients of government aid to help them produce more efficient vehicles in Australia. Ford's accounts show a net tax benefit of $127.5 million for 2008, almost triple the previous year's $45.3 million benefit. The car maker, with plants in Geelong and Melbourne's northern suburb of Broadmeadows, spent $250.7 million on research and development last year, slight more than the $243.3 million spent in the previous year. Excluding financing charges and special items, Ford's an underlying operating loss was $14 million, compared with a $99 million loss in 2007, an improvement of $85 million, the company said. Special items included $110 million ''to reflect the cost of restructuring actions during 2008; and $52 million to reflect the reduced value of certain long-lived assets,'' the company said. BusinessDay, with Richard Blackburn © 2007 The Sydney Morning Herald Popular Stories
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19-06-2009, 07:27 PM | #7 | ||
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That's disappointing. I was hoping both companies (the two that count) would turn a nominal profit.
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19-06-2009, 07:42 PM | #8 | |||||
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Poorly written article. Tries to link "losses" to "sales" in the first bit... Quote:
Then the explanation for this loss right down the bottom. Nothing to do with lack of sales. Doomsdayer's article, typical rubbish sorry to say. Quote:
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19-06-2009, 08:29 PM | #9 | ||
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Different writer, different view, same numbers:
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19-06-2009, 08:40 PM | #10 | ||
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Accountants can be very creative!! Read the 2nd last paragraph to is where the "true" business perfromance is heading long time..
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http://www.businessspectator.com.au/...Q?OpenDocument
A much better, balanced article. 2nd last paragraph Quote:
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19-06-2009, 09:18 PM | #14 | |||
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I think the real key is this
Ford's an underlying operating loss was $14 million which is a dramatic closing of the loss made the previous year. The other big factor was the stock market losses requiring the defined benefit super/pension scheme needing big bucks, ie $150m plus! Ford Australia, also had the decency to retrench workers, unlike Holden who are starving off their workers with real pay reduced by over 30%. The redundancy cost was $110m... The final thing i noticed is what Marin Burela said. Quote:
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19-06-2009, 09:43 PM | #15 | |||
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19-06-2009, 11:03 PM | #16 | |||
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20-06-2009, 08:53 AM | #17 | ||
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Tell that to the guys who go to Bathurst and the plethora of members here who have preoccupation with red versus blue. Toyota only gets mentioned in passing in these forums, while Holden dominates.
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20-06-2009, 12:41 PM | #18 | |||
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Going back to your answer, and then your explanation, I think you're a closet Holden lover that doesn't accept any criticism of the un-Australian bogan car company. Live with it. Holden doesn't "count" any more or less than Toyota does. Toyota employs people locally, and that's what counts the most!
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22-06-2009, 10:58 AM | #20 | |||
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Here's a more balanced article from Carpoint:
http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2009...s-for-08-15550 Quote:
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22-06-2009, 11:07 AM | #21 | |||
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22-06-2009, 11:43 AM | #22 | |||
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95,000 exported vehicles is a good haul too. They are using the lull to increase employee training in readiness for the upturn.... really good business acumen IMO. |
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22-06-2009, 12:04 PM | #23 | |||
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122.4 + 274.4 = $396.8m. consider also the deficit equity position of having twice the liabilities as assets on the balance sheet. |
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22-06-2009, 12:47 PM | #24 | |||
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22-06-2009, 12:56 PM | #25 | ||
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Financial sites.
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22-06-2009, 01:30 PM | #26 | |||
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22-06-2009, 01:50 PM | #27 | ||
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I can't comment on that, but they are the figures quoted. I might have to spend a few bob on a broker to get a copy.
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22-06-2009, 03:02 PM | #28 | |||
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I don't believe you'll get a copy...... Like I said it's not published info here. |
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22-06-2009, 03:37 PM | #29 | ||
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I thought they had filed with ASIC?
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Anyone can download it for a price from one of the various information brokers. |
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