Craptiva

SVTVNM · 08-01-2010, 06:37 PM

They are totally paying out on Holden and the Captiva as a Lemon

FalconXR6 · 08-01-2010, 06:38 PM

Anyone else watching the Holden "Craptiva" bashing on Today Tonight ?

Pure gold !!!

just_pazz · 08-01-2010, 06:40 PM

oh hell yeah... loving it!!

TC200six · 08-01-2010, 06:40 PM

Repost

: http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11284527

Edit: Yeah haha funny. Was this last night's episode or tonight's?

sxckevo · 08-01-2010, 06:40 PM

yeah i am time to give holden some of the crap us ford fans have copt

SVTVNM · 08-01-2010, 06:43 PM

They also mentioned how it's built in Korea by Daewoo, Which I'm quiet sure most of the people driving them think Because it's "Euro" styling is built somewhere other than Korea.

Road_Warrior · 08-01-2010, 06:44 PM

Does anyone care to provide a potted summary of the said Captiva bashing for us here in Wait Awhile who have just finished lunch?

TC200six · 08-01-2010, 06:47 PM

Now Holden gets some negative press after that Ford Exploder cruse control incident. Now I've got a comeback when my Holden supporters go "neh neh, Fords have crappy cruse control".

sxckevo · 08-01-2010, 06:47 PM

here you go http://au.todaytonight.yahoo.com/art...l/captiva-woes

R-Design · 08-01-2010, 06:52 PM

Missed it, please explain!

Kamshaaft · 08-01-2010, 07:03 PM

http://au.todaytonight.yahoo.com/art...l/captiva-woes

BLKWDW · 08-01-2010, 07:13 PM

Its built in korea what do u expect. I didnt see what the problem was with there frontera's they used to sell up until 02.

Iggypoppin' · 08-01-2010, 07:14 PM

ouch. and people complain about BA falcons breaking down constantly, mines been back once to warranty for brakes, otherwise its great. i wouldnt want to own a craptiva either way, but im glad my dad got a blending in avalon and not this abomination.

caputo23 · 08-01-2010, 07:18 PM

were can i get one, they sound amazing, great reviews and sound like they're going to be trouble free

aha!!

Mr Hardware · 08-01-2010, 07:29 PM

A mate of mine has just put down fifty large on a craptiva! Why would you!

Iggypoppin' · 08-01-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Hardware

A mate of mine has just put down fifty large on a craptiva! Why would you!

is it too late to show him this and he can excercise his right to the "cooling off" period? perhaps an article like this will prove that A) its a crap car and B) he will only be worse off for buying it.

Windsor220 · 08-01-2010, 07:38 PM

I hadnt driven one until I got a job at Holden. I couldnt believe that is what people were buying over Territories. Looks and feels like cheap rubbish.

peaandham · 08-01-2010, 07:44 PM

Loved watching it, they cant even seal the rear windscreen !

cosmo20btt · 08-01-2010, 07:47 PM

If I never saw the program I would not have thought that the Craptiva never had any problems, Holden must be good at keeping it under the covers.
Off topic but how does anyone compare a Craptiva with a Territory, just not in the same league.

Archilino · 08-01-2010, 07:48 PM

Dam they trashed it every second they could, mind you when i saw the commercial on the news about it with the sillouette of a 4WD in the background i though territory straight away.

Chopped · 08-01-2010, 07:53 PM

Today Tonight and A Current Affair are both crap shows. Gutter Journalism.
They rely on sensationalism and catchy headlines to keep you watching (notice they always have a new "easy way to loose weight" headline!).

I'm not sticking up for the Captiva (couldn't care less about it / just highlighting hypocrisy!) but if this was a Territory, I'm sure you would all be bagging the show, the media are Ford bashers, those owners sound like whingers etc etc

I do agree with the show saying that the "Lemon Law" should be introduced here.

BGBOSS · 08-01-2010, 08:11 PM

Don't tell anyone.. but I actually work as a holden tech. And to tell you the truth, we haven't had many troubles with the captivas at all. From my experience, they've been one of the better cars of the holden fleet, even if they are daewoos. Sure you get a few shocker cars here and there, but show me a line of car that hasn't.

Not trying to defend captivas or anything, but if you base your opinions on anything from what you see on current affair/today tonight......

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pauljh74 · 08-01-2010, 08:12 PM

As soon as I heard "Captiva" was the name of the car upon release - I called it a Craptiva and have ever since. My sister bought one - so I've held my tongue in her presence because she only recently paid about $30k for a 2nd hand one. I don't think she's had any issues so far. I suppose it is one of the cheaper 7 seater SUVs - she has 2 boys and her partner has 2 boys, so they need 6 seats minimum.

**SSD-85** · 08-01-2010, 08:53 PM

All I can say is, its about damn time the media give Holden the beating theyve loooonngg deserved.

mik · 08-01-2010, 09:02 PM

i saw the aca tonight, one of the Kraptiva`s had been back 30 times, if ever there was a case for lemon laws thats it. sure would be interesting to know what effect the lemon laws have had on owners and car manufacturers over`sea`s , good or bad .

kezzer · 08-01-2010, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Scotty85

All I can say is, its about damn time the media give Holden the beating theyve loooonngg deserved.

Seems the media lately is hellbent on destroying the aussie car industry, as if it needs any help :togo: The Ford exploder, and now the Craptiva, not to mention the COUNTLESS articles depicting ford, holden and toyota cars in a bad (unfair) light. With f**knut journo's like this in Australia, won't be very long till we are all driving imported cars.

Lemons aren't specific to any one brand, it can happen, I think Holden's response is what counts in these circumstances. Looking at the reply on todaytonights website it seems they are going to good lengths to fix it. Todaytonight is always bias, I wouldn't believe half of what was said on that stupid show.

Saying that, I still wouldn't drive a Craptiva

Paxton · 08-01-2010, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kezzer

Seems the media lately is hellbent on destroying the aussie car industry, as if it needs any help :togo: The Ford exploder, and now the Craptiva, not to mention the COUNTLESS articles depicting ford, holden and toyota cars in a bad (unfair) light. With f**knut journo's like this in Australia, won't be very long till we are all driving imported cars.

Lemons aren't specific to any one brand, it can happen, I think Holden's response is what counts in these circumstances. Looking at the reply on todaytonights website it seems they are going to good lengths to fix it. Todaytonight is always bias, I wouldn't believe half of what was said on that stupid show.

Saying that, I still wouldn't drive a Craptiva

What has a Korean Holden and an American Ford got to do with the Local Car industry?

If it was a Camry/Aurion, Falcon/Territory, or a Commodore you could say something, but it isn't. Don't forget that if Ford or Holden pulled up stumps here, they'd do a Mitsubishi, and remain as a full time importer. That being said, Ford Australia is still the Falcon motor company.

kezzer · 08-01-2010, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Paxton

What has a Korean Holden and an American Ford got to do with the Local Car industry?

If it was a Camry/Aurion, Falcon/Territory, or a Commodore you could say something, but it isn't. Don't forget that if Ford or Holden pulled up stumps here, they'd do a Mitsubishi, and remain as a full time importer. That being said, Ford Australia is still the Falcon motor company.

ahh yeah fair enough, just seems the media loves to jump on the band wagon is all, im sure the explorer and craptiva on the news will sway a few people to avoiding ford and holden all together though.

Paxton · 08-01-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kezzer

ahh yeah fair enough, just seems the media loves to jump on the band wagon is all, im sure the explorer and craptiva on the news will sway a few people to avoiding ford and holden all together though.

I wouldn't say that.

Ford don't import the Exploder any more, especially with Territory. Holden's Craptiva on the other hand...

Swordsman88 · 08-01-2010, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Paxton

What has a Korean Holden and an American Ford got to do with the Local Car industry?

If it was a Camry/Aurion, Falcon/Territory, or a Commodore you could say something, but it isn't. Don't forget that if Ford or Holden pulled up stumps here, they'd do a Mitsubishi, and remain as a full time importer. That being said, Ford Australia is still the Falcon motor company.

Development wise yes, but sales split is probably going to continue a slow move towards a fairer distribution. For example, fiesta salesa were 40% as much as falcon sales last month...didn't think i'd ever see the day that happened....