Man beaten unconscious for his XR6T

[Bobman]

Scumbags. I'm not being racist, but most young Islanders that I've met in my life have not been very nice people. What a disgrace this is.

Be careful out there XR6 Turbo owners if this is anything to go by. If anyone knows this guy or knows the rego or colour of the car, pass it on and hopefully we can all keep a lookout for parts and so on.

Bashed, left for dead
Man beaten unconscious for his car

A NARRE Warren South man was viciously bashed and left on the side of the road by a pack of car thieves. Patrick Reyes said he was attacked after parking his Ford XR6 turbo sedan outside the Pound Rd, Narre Warren Mobile Service Station about 3.30am on Sunday, April 11.

The 24-year-old said a car carrying four men stopped in front of him, and two of them got out of the back seat.

‘‘They started coming towards me and I could tell they were looking for a fight.’’

Mr Reyes said he was hit on the face and head before being knocked unconscious.

‘‘I blacked out and woke up to find my car was gone.’’

Passers-by found Mr Reyes lying on the road and took him to hospital with a fractured jaw and deep cuts to his chin and mouth.

He now has a permanent metal plate in his jaw.

Mr Reyes said he believed gang violence had skyrocketed in Hampton Park and Narre Warren.

‘‘They are petty troublemakers. I was just caught in the middle,’’ he said.

Mr Reyes said he still owed $ 11,000 on his car, which was uninsured.

He described the men as being of Islander appearance, about 19 to 23 years old, medium build, about 180cm tall and driving a small blue Holden similar to a Toyota RAV4.

[exdubbleya]

Pretty crook.

Uninsured? bet he wont make that mistake again.

[Boosh Brus]

I do not think being an islander has anything relevance.

There are just far too many idiots around and too much greed. The police and courts should not tolerate this kind of thing.

[Iggypoppin']

That's shocking, unfortunatly that car will either get destroyed or used to birth another and parts sold off. Whilst he probably should have had insurance, it's not up to me or anyone else to comment too harshly as we don't know all the details of his pesonal life. I feel for the bloke.

[b2tf]

That's awful - can't believe they didn't go for a V8!

[ltd]

Very sad indeed, hope they catch the low life scumbags and conscript them to the "Bubba Army".
Why though is the guy driving an XR6T without insurance?
Surely he'd realise now that it's worth it.

[ltd]

Originally Posted by Boosh Brus

I do not think being an islander has anything relevance.

There are just far too many idiots around and too much greed. The police and courts should not tolerate this kind of thing.

There's a lot of violence regarding these people related to the involvement of the elders in their home country. Come here, no elders, no authoritarian figure. In Tonga for doing what they did they'd have a leg broken or cop a severe beating; here we give them a suspended sentence. In other words, they feel emboldened to do what they like as they don't cop the punishment.
This is not my opinion however, this is the gist of what some Tongan community leaders have said publicly over the bashing of that Canadian wheelchair guy a couple of weeks back.

Agree with your second point though.

[platinumXR]

Not insured? Owes $11K on the car?......

[Bobman]

Not everyone has insurance. But I thought insurance was mandatory when you took out finance?

I feel for the guy though. It could have been any of us cruising along and getting fuel after a night out or something only to be ambushed like this by a pack of dogs when he was on his own.

[Falcon Coupe]

I hope the servo's cameras help identify these thugs, they need a lesson in respect.

On a side note, I believe a 3rd party fire/theft policy should be compulsory.

[XR6_661]

Originally Posted by Bobman

Not everyone has insurance. But I thought insurance was mandatory when you took out finance?

I'd imagine it woulda been an unsecured personal loan...

On a side note, does it matter about insurance, etc.

Poor fella got bashed and his car stolen.

[Bobman]

Originally Posted by XR6_661

I'd imagine it woulda been an unsecured personal loan...

On a side note, does it matter about insurance, etc.

Poor fella got bashed and his car stolen.

Exactly. I have never had insurance or needed it either. Not all insurers pay out anyway and many claims are rejected on the smallest technicality.

Let's hope cameras pinpoint some clues, but then the car the thugs were in could have been stolen too!

[Brent]

This sort of thing hits home with me, as I often wash my GT later at night at the local DIY car wash place. I often wonder if I'm an easy target as I wash my car, otherwise distracted from what (or whom) may be walking around the corner.

Anyway, just another small nail in the coffin of society for me. My wife and I have already made a pact that when we eventually retire, it will be on a half decent block of land up in the country somewhere, just to get away from as much people-related garbage as possible. Call me simple, but I really look forward to settling into a life where I don't have to dodge vomit on local trains, or clean up Jim Beam cans and Maccas packets from my front lawn on the weekend, or listen to cretins next door swear, shout, and play music all weekend at 110 decibels.

Just give me a few acres away from the flotsam and jetsam of society, a comfortable farmhouse, and a shed to store the car and a few bits & pieces, and I'll be a happy man. Damn it, I reckon I'll turn into a recluse, and quite a happy one at that!

Brent.

[LTDHO]

Un-insured?

No symphathy for him.

[Bobman]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

Un-insured?

No symphathy for him.

Do you deserve sympathy if your insurance won't pay you out for certain things like earth quakes or a tornado that are one in a million chance happening here?

[XR6_661]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

Un-insured?

No symphathy for him.

So, you're saying...him being uninsured is directly related to him being bashed senseless? Saying something like that, imho, makes you as bad as the people who commited the offence.

I don't think so. Him being uninsured is just bad luck of his behalf.

I bet if it was a member of your family or a loved one you're dim and narrow minded view would be different.

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by XR6_661

I'd imagine it woulda been an unsecured personal loan...

On a side note, does it matter about insurance, etc.

It does if some uninsured fool writes off my pride and joy and the courts allow them to pay back $20.00 a week over their lifetime.

I'm sure if the poor bloke who was bashed wishes he had it now.

[Black F6]

Originally Posted by XR6_661

So, you're saying...him being uninsured is directly related to him being bashed senseless? Saying something like that, imho, makes you as bad as the people who commited the offence.

I don't think so. Him being uninsured is just bad luck of his behalf.

I bet if it was a member of your family or a loved one you're dim and narrow minded view would be different.

Agreed

[uranium_death]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

Un-insured?

No symphathy for him.

As XR6_661 stated, that's a rather selfish throwaway comment.
The car not being insured is absolutely secondary to his physical injury.

You're almost saying that it's okay to hit people if their cars aren't insured...
While I'm sure you aren't saying that, the car being uninsired is irrelevant.

[Boosh Brus]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

It does if some uninsured fool writes off my pride and joy and the courts allow them to pay back $20.00 a week over their lifetime.

I'm sure if the poor bloke who was bashed wishes he had it now.

Wouldn't your insurance pay you out and then the compensation would become the insurance company's problem?

[Bobman]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

It does if some uninsured fool writes off my pride and joy and the courts allow them to pay back $20.00 a week over their lifetime.

Yeah, but in that case you'd want to have comprehensive so you never have to worry about this. You put a claim in and they chase up the money. If it's your pride and joy, 3rd party wouldn't be the choice of insurance.

I'm sure if the poor bloke who was bashed wishes he had it now.

That is of course, if the company would even pay out in such circumstances. They won't always pay out if you have your keys in the car while refuelling and someone jumps in to steal it. The insurance company could argue that he was away from his car at the time of the incident and left the keys in it. These companies do anything they can to not pay, so are useless in many circumstances.

[Kryton]

Originally Posted by Boosh Brus

Wouldn't your insurance pay you out and then the compensation would become the insurance company's problem?

It would but if you had no insurance either, youd have no choice but to accept $20 a week for the rest of your life.

I think the lesson to be learned here is in this situation, you do what ever it takes to try and drive away.
If that means mowing down a few oxygen thieves - so be it.

[Scott]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

Un-insured?

No symphathy for him.

Nah, why would you? Poor bastard got his head kicked in, was left for dead on the side of the road whilst some scumbag thief flogs the absolute crap out of his car and will probably either crash it or destroy it by fire. To top the list, he didn't even have insurance to fall back on.

That would be one of the dumbest posts I have ever read on AFF. Congratulations.

[Professor Farnsworth]

my experience with the Islanders around here is they're really nice people, they keep to themselves, and when they don't they're friendly and have a sense of humour..

but yeah, UNINSURED? dear me.

[Brent]

So far 20 posts and an interesting theme has already developed.....there's as many, if not more posts questioning the victim and his insurance habits, rather than focusing on the act itself. Almost like its a generally accepted given that you'll be bashed senseless at some point in life, and the only real issue is your level of insurance cover.

Reminds me of when I had my old beloved ED XR6 stolen. Had full comprehensive cover, but wouldn't have needed it if I had a dollar for every person who said something along the lines of "Oh well, lucky you had insurance." Fact of the matter was there there was no luck about it at all........I paid a small fortune as a young guy to insure the car; when it was stolen I lost my $600 excess, the $900 of new Yokohamas I'd put on it 14 days beforehand, plus my rating and so my premium increased 200%. I was also without a car for 6 weeks, and had to go through the equivalent of a Royal Commission by the insurer who wanted to make 100% sure that I hadn't defrauded them. All in all, a very ordinary experience.

I don't care what level of cover you have. Any significant insurance claim always leaves you out of pocket, or severely inconvenienced, or both.

[Scott]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

UNINSURED? dear me.

The thing is, right, that it is bloody easy to be uninsured at any given point in time.

Maybe it had just expired and he forgot;
Maybe it had just expired and he couldn't afford to pay it just yet;
Maybe his direct debit had bounced this month;
Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe.

At the end of the day, the poor bloke has lost his car, is lying in hospital and has a debt of $11,000 with no asset against it and all I keep reading is shock and awe that he didn't have protection against having the crap beaten out of him and his car being stolen.

Really, there is a much deeper issue than whether or not he had freaking insurance!

[Professor Farnsworth]

Originally Posted by GTP006

The thing is, right, that it is bloody easy to be uninsured at any given point in time.

Maybe it had just expired and he forgot;
Maybe it had just expired and he couldn't afford to pay it just yet;
Maybe his direct debit had bounced this month;
Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe.

At the end of the day, the poor bloke has lost his car, is lying in hospital and has a debt of $11,000 with no asset against it and all I keep reading is shock and awe that he didn't have protection against having the crap beaten out of him and his car being stolen.

Really, there is a much deeper issue than whether or not he had freaking insurance!

mate of course i have sympathy for him, more than you might imagine, been in a similar incident myself. I have a great deal of passion for cars and i think stealing them, along with anything else is a low act. I wish the best for the guy, and hope it's not the guy i'm thinking of who i know lives around the area.

It's the irony everyone is highlighting, if you can't afford insurance for that (or any) sort of car, you just don't drive it, until you can. End of story.

[Streets]

What is the world coming to when you can't wander around a dodgy neighbourhood at 3 o'clock in the morning without fear of attack.

[mrbaxr6t]

excuse me? A guy was bashed senseless and his property taken THIS AGAINST THE LAW people not having insurance is not - I can see clearly who the law breakers and the ones deserving of a lashing are, unlike some. I wish the poor guy a speedy recovery, and the police find the perps before they do it again not after.

And saying they should have taken a V8 come on now is not the time to be starting a v8 vs 6t war a fellow Ford owner has been the victim of a nasty as hell crime in times like these we should not be infighting but banding together and forwarding any information you know about this incident to the authorities - hell if it was a camry I would be mad as hell :

[T3ts50]

Originally Posted by Professor Farnsworth

my experience with the Islanders around here is they're really nice people, they keep to themselves, and when they don't they're friendly and have a sense of humour..

Ive been in the are for 14 years now and have to agree with your comment.

Though it only takes a few to ruin the name.