|
Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated. |
|
The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk |
View Poll Results: Would you buy a V8 dual cab ute? | |||
Hell yeah where do I sign | 30 | 53.57% | |
Hell no, it's a pointless vehicle | 16 | 28.57% | |
Hell no, it would cost too much to run | 3 | 5.36% | |
I don't know | 7 | 12.50% | |
Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
14-05-2010, 12:56 PM | #1 | ||
Pity the fool
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wait Awhile
Posts: 8,997
|
And I'm not talking about the Crewman either.
The rise of 'lifestyle' vehicle choices has seen the current generation of dual cab utes sell very well and why not - they are now very well equipped, comfortable, have increased utility over passenger cars and have many of the creature comforts and systems that normal cars have. They look great too. But still, makers of these vehicles have not broken out of the diesel and 4cyl petrol mindset, although most of them now offer V6's. With this in mind, could makers of these vehicles come up with a dual cab with a V8 option? Toyota and Nissan, I'm looking at you. Particularly as they both have modern high tech all alloy V8's in their corporate arsenals. It's worth pointing out too, that the US market version of the Nissan Pathfinder (which uses the same F-Alpha platform as the Navara and is basically the same as the AU market Pathfinder) is available with a 5.6 litre V8 option: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Pathfinder.jpg http://www.nissanusa.com/pathfinder/ Whilst its not as easy for the Hilux, as it would appear the US market version doesn't have a V8 either, there is still the 4.5 litre V8 as fitted to Landcruisers. There is also the 5.7 Lexus-only motor. Would a dual cab V8 4x4 or AWD ute sell in Australia? Discuss.
__________________
Fords I own or have owned: 1970 XW Falcon GT replica | 1970 XW Falcon | 1971 XY Fairmont | 1973 ZG Fairlane | 1986 XF Falcon panel van | 1987 XFII Falcon S-Pack | 1988 XF Falcon GLS ute | 1993 EBII Fairmont V8 | 1996 XG Falcon ute | 2000 AU Falcon wagon | 2004 BA Falcon XT | 2012 SZ Territory Titanium AWD Proud to buy Australian and support Ford Australia through thick and thin |
||
14-05-2010, 01:03 PM | #2 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,077
|
If it is petrol then the rural market will ignore it and it will go the way of the F6X, XUV et al. as a "seemed like a good idea at the time".
|
||
14-05-2010, 03:42 PM | #3 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geelong
Posts: 2,374
|
Funny you mention this me and a mate were talking about this last night .
We both want one and both agreed the f-trucks are to big to consider talking it off the highway . On gas it will yeild costs equal to or less then a diesel will a lot more power to boot. Flappist is right though with out diesel it wont get bought buy the mining company's or many farmers . Dont know about looking at toyota or nissan though . Holden colarado/dmax is just begging for a ls motor . |
||
14-05-2010, 03:48 PM | #4 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,077
|
Quote:
|
|||
14-05-2010, 04:05 PM | #5 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geelong
Posts: 2,374
|
Quote:
Well the rest of australia needs to pull there finger out . Im not sure but i guessing its the other side of australia thats bringing it to us . Even if its not cheap where you are im guessing that your diesel is as equally as expensive here diesel is almost premium ulp prices |
|||
14-05-2010, 04:06 PM | #6 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Brisvegas QLD
Posts: 1,166
|
thats it flappist. well gas is readily available at a lot of outlets even in regional areas, the price is sometimes far from what you would pay in metropolitan areas. I remember when LPG here was at 45cpl in rocky it was 80 - 90c/l even in townsville it was 79c/l
I will have to see what its fetching now as in brisbane it is around 66/cpl so getting higher all the time, add in that lovely 12.5c excise coming in..
__________________
FG
Felcen! |
||
14-05-2010, 04:07 PM | #7 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Brisvegas QLD
Posts: 1,166
|
Snappy in QLD majority of the time DIESEL is cheaper then Unleaded... especially on days like today where they have jacked the price of fuel up from 1.19 a litre to 1.38 a litre because "they can"
__________________
FG
Felcen! |
||
14-05-2010, 04:11 PM | #8 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geelong
Posts: 2,374
|
Quote:
Enjoy it while it lasts because have a guess what going to happen now that everyone is shifting to diesels. |
|||
14-05-2010, 04:19 PM | #9 | ||
I am Groot
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Burnett Heads, Qld
Posts: 6,840
|
Only if it was a Diesel V8, and fuel price has nothing to do with my choice....
__________________
.. McLaren F1 Dick Johnson Racing "Those were the days when the cars were cars, they weren't built out of an Ikea pack like they are now and clothed in plastic; they were real cars." John Bowe |
||
14-05-2010, 04:23 PM | #10 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Brisvegas QLD
Posts: 1,166
|
good old supply and demand eh. LPG is dear rural areas due to the cost of transportation and that same fact that they dont use much out of metro areas. the cabbies in rocky tell me they dont bother with gas, too expensive and noone does the work there or something like that. mind you I have seen a prius on lpg...
__________________
FG
Felcen! |
||
14-05-2010, 04:27 PM | #11 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geelong
Posts: 2,374
|
Quote:
Could see why its that dear i used to live rural and at the time lpg was about 25-30cents a litre |
|||
14-05-2010, 04:36 PM | #12 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Brisvegas QLD
Posts: 1,166
|
im talking about now tho, its pretty dear. what is the price of gas in geelong these days? as compared to ulp/premo/diesel.
anyways OT, I think our lovely QLD govt would kill it off with ridiculously high registration costs due to being A: V8 B: UTE. up in the vicinity of 1200 bucks a year for registration is a bit much eh!
__________________
FG
Felcen! |
||
14-05-2010, 04:37 PM | #13 | ||
Clevo Mafia Inc.
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 10,496
|
|
||
14-05-2010, 04:40 PM | #14 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,412
|
Quote:
unlike cheap gasoline USA, buyers here demanded diesels for better fuel economy. You may be able to sell a V8 dual cab pick ups in Australia but I think that market is extremely limited. |
|||
14-05-2010, 04:58 PM | #15 | ||
I am Groot
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Burnett Heads, Qld
Posts: 6,840
|
I'm not waiting for some manufacturer to build one, will be getting one of these latter this year....
4.5L V8 TD.... I prefer the above one... ...flappist may recognise the place... .
__________________
.. McLaren F1 Dick Johnson Racing "Those were the days when the cars were cars, they weren't built out of an Ikea pack like they are now and clothed in plastic; they were real cars." John Bowe |
||
14-05-2010, 05:00 PM | #16 | ||
.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 6,197
|
I ticked yes, but without the "hell yeah" until I see a prcie on one.
My wishlist for our second car: 4x4, Dual-Cab, V8 Diesel, Leather, Roof, all electrics - sub $50k please ;) |
||
14-05-2010, 05:05 PM | #17 | ||
BOSS 5.4L Enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 21,943
|
While F250 Upwards may be "too Much" the F150 isn't that big even in duel cab.
I'd jump at the chance of a decent on and off road 4x4 V8 whether it be Petrol or Diesel. Toyota Tundra is alot more apealing to me than the Hilux, same can be said for Ford, Nissan & GM's products we get here V the US Market. |
||
14-05-2010, 05:08 PM | #18 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geelong
Posts: 2,374
|
Quote:
It is a bit much for rego gas is less the half the cost of ulp or diesel gas is ussally around 60c ulp/diesel cycles between 1.20- 1.40 |
|||
14-05-2010, 05:18 PM | #19 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geelong
Posts: 2,374
|
Quote:
My mates got one doesn't fit in a parking space or a normal garage and to high for alot of underground carparks . Honeslty it annoy's him to no end and it would annoy me to no end aswell. I love them but so unpractical for a daily Also try parking your xr8 right beside one it absolutly dwarfs it . I parked mine next to my mates f-truck and my ute looked like somthing you used as a step to get in side it. |
|||
14-05-2010, 05:30 PM | #20 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 786
|
I drove Nissan Titan for a while when I was in California.
A wicked machine, and a ripper V8 too. Its a damn shame we don't get the best choice of commercial vehicles out here in Australia. |
||
14-05-2010, 05:38 PM | #21 | |||
Pity the fool
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wait Awhile
Posts: 8,997
|
Quote:
__________________
Fords I own or have owned: 1970 XW Falcon GT replica | 1970 XW Falcon | 1971 XY Fairmont | 1973 ZG Fairlane | 1986 XF Falcon panel van | 1987 XFII Falcon S-Pack | 1988 XF Falcon GLS ute | 1993 EBII Fairmont V8 | 1996 XG Falcon ute | 2000 AU Falcon wagon | 2004 BA Falcon XT | 2012 SZ Territory Titanium AWD Proud to buy Australian and support Ford Australia through thick and thin |
|||
14-05-2010, 05:44 PM | #22 | |||
.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 6,197
|
Quote:
My wife doesn't have the greatest back so it needs to be high (just sold the GT and bought her a Lexus RX for the same reason) and if I'm going to buy a Ute like that, I may aswell have 4x4 so we can use it on the beach and at the boat ramp (if I get my way ) |
|||
14-05-2010, 05:55 PM | #23 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Sun City, North Australis
Posts: 4,274
|
Quote:
I would beg to differ. I havent seen many places in QLD where Diesel is cheaper then Unleaded. And if it is cheaper its only by a few cents.
__________________
You've seen it, you've heard it and your still asking questions?? Don't write off the Goose until you see the box going into the hole.... |
|||
14-05-2010, 05:59 PM | #24 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Brisvegas QLD
Posts: 1,166
|
ill check when im in townsville next what the go is but its cheaper on the expensive fuel days here because we get a weekly price fluctuation. up north its fairly steady.
__________________
FG
Felcen! |
||
14-05-2010, 07:36 PM | #25 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geelong
Posts: 2,374
|
Quote:
If your wife has a bad back stay away from anything that is 4x4 and ute your wife will be in tears by the end of the street. Pov pack seat and stiff suspension terrible combo and the reason I dont own one now. Although to be fair i never test drove a hilux |
|||
14-05-2010, 08:18 PM | #26 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Sun City, North Australis
Posts: 4,274
|
Quote:
Yes its steady as its always more expensive then brisbane lol I drove back from Brisbane just before Christmas and found everywhere past the sunshine coast had Diesel dearer then unleaded. If that isnt a con job by the fuel companies then I dont know what is
__________________
You've seen it, you've heard it and your still asking questions?? Don't write off the Goose until you see the box going into the hole.... |
|||
14-05-2010, 08:33 PM | #27 | |||
Barra Turbo > V8
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 26,176
|
Quote:
__________________
-2011 XR6 Turbo Ute - Lux Pack - M6 -2022 Hyundai Tucson Highlander Diesel N Line |
|||
14-05-2010, 11:04 PM | #28 | |||
.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 6,197
|
Quote:
|
|||
14-05-2010, 11:17 PM | #29 | ||
Performance moderator
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: St Clair..N.S.W
Posts: 14,875
|
In a heavy vehicle a diesel has FAR better fuel economy.. No matter the initial cost of fuel.. It would need to be 50% more expensive to be even ...
My Rodeo I fill up every second day.. The 3.0 ltr turbo diesels last nearly a week.. 4 to 5 days... Toyota's & Mitsi's diesels...All take TMK about $80 to fill...
__________________
Real cars are not driven by front wheels,real cars lift them!!... BABYS ARE BOTTLE FED, REAL MEN GET BLOWN. Don't be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the Ark...Professionals built the Titanic! Dart 330ci block turbo black pearl EBXR8 482 rwkw.. Daily driver GTE FG.. Projects http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=107711 http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...8+turbo&page=4 |
||
14-05-2010, 11:27 PM | #30 | ||
.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 6,197
|
^^ Which Rodeo do you have?
|
||