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06-07-2010, 05:15 PM | #1 | ||
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Toyota posts a lost as well.
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257758001172B8 No 3 in sales, yet no 1 in profit!!! |
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06-07-2010, 06:15 PM | #2 | ||
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The loss was due to a the ATO slugging them for sending profits o/s.
They still managed a 183million dollar pre tax profit.
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06-07-2010, 06:17 PM | #3 | |||
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http://theage.drive.com.au/motor-new...0706-zxvd.html
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06-07-2010, 06:30 PM | #4 | ||
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How many of these hits will they take before the general population begins to question the ethics of Toyota?
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06-07-2010, 06:39 PM | #5 | |||
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Toyota Middle East for Camrys delivered there? That works out to $17,479 per vehicle. |
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06-07-2010, 06:53 PM | #6 | |||
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And great result for Ford.
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06-07-2010, 06:55 PM | #7 | ||||
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06-07-2010, 10:30 PM | #8 | ||
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Down with the whitegoods!
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06-07-2010, 11:53 PM | #9 | ||
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Have Toyota ever made huge profits in Oz? I remember one year not long ago they sold a record amount yet only posted a $10 million profit...
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07-07-2010, 12:03 AM | #10 | |||
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07-07-2010, 12:04 AM | #11 | |||
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07-07-2010, 01:05 AM | #12 | |||
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http://www.drivearabia.com/ultimatec...2010-2011-/521 The addition of $10000 to the cars price, probably makes sense when you add transport, duties, taxes and dealer margin etc etc Remember, you could buy a G8 in the US for $30,000 US (approx AU$34,000) at the time. And Holden were selling the equivalent car here for mid $40 thousands. |
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07-07-2010, 01:58 AM | #13 | |||
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07-07-2010, 08:15 AM | #14 | ||
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I expected nothing less from toyota.
A few years back they were pulled up on a tax related issue, after threatening to pack up and leave Australia, the ATO dropped the case. Now it looks like the ATO has come back for blood. Good on them.
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07-07-2010, 08:34 AM | #15 | |||
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07-07-2010, 08:52 AM | #16 | |||
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Its still $$ they rightfully owe and it all counts to their bottom line. They've been caught out, by how much we will probably never know and the ATO is happy to get (AUS) $183 Mil, what figure did they orginally have in mind?
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07-07-2010, 09:11 AM | #17 | |||
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Hey Toyota don't let the door hit you on the way out . |
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07-07-2010, 01:39 PM | #19 | |||
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07-07-2010, 02:11 PM | #20 | |||
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They take out the company everyone can trust survey...mind you it is readers digest!! lol
http://www.caradvice.com.au/73311/to...-trust-survey/ Quote:
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07-07-2010, 02:34 PM | #21 | |||
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07-07-2010, 02:55 PM | #22 | |||
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07-07-2010, 05:58 PM | #23 | |||
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Whilst I don't think Falcon and Commodore will ever be at the top again, I do think they will enjoy moderate success as a niche vehicle well into the future, rather than a default choice like most Toyotas are now. The best thing that could happen to the Falcon is for Taxi operators to start using Camry's/Aurions instead. When you think Falcon, what does 99% of the population picture in their minds? A grubby yellow cab and a driver with bad BO.
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07-07-2010, 06:10 PM | #24 | |||
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11-07-2010, 05:31 PM | #25 | ||
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The 4 cylinder Camry engine is actually made here.
Its no suprise Toyota got busted for tax dodging, its widely known they have been doing it for years. |
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11-07-2010, 08:47 PM | #26 | |||
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Yeah, there has been suspicions and investigations for several years leading into this 'fine/repayment' by Toyota Australia to the ATO. Adamz Ghia was right about those record sales and miniscule profit attracting the ATO. Especially when a huge portion of those sales were high margin SUV which were concessionally taxed at 5% import duty instead of car duty which was 10% at the time. If you make money, then pay tax. Simple. If it wasn't for the backdated tax bill, then Toyota Aus were rolling in it. Helps to charge Japanese prices for Thai made Hilux's. Personally, I would like to see all 3 report good figures, particularly Ford.
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12-07-2010, 11:46 AM | #27 | |||
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So what. In the big picture, it really has noting to do with it. As to the "yearly profit". Like they usually don't make a profit in the beginning of each model run, do they. so it's not as simple, like it's a corner fish shop business is it. We could not really tell jack from what is going on from just a yearly figure. |
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12-07-2010, 12:01 PM | #28 | |||
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Didnt you know that on this forum as car enthusiasts we apparantly care more about a misleading profit and loss statement than the actual products themselves. Hence every second Holden Vs Ford thread turns into a slinging match on profitability. "Pfft who cares about quarter mile times, my profit and loss sheet is better than your profit and loss sheet!!" |
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12-07-2010, 01:57 PM | #29 | |||
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Kinda like the experts who talk about sales!!
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12-07-2010, 04:39 PM | #30 | |||
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Do you have any idea why a business opens the front door & lets customers in??? |
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