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27-07-2010, 03:56 PM | #1 | ||
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The Greens are pushing for a mandatory fuel efficiency standard in Australian cars in line with European targets.
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...ID=69917&vf=26 |
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27-07-2010, 04:00 PM | #2 | ||
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Who is going to reimburse the folks whose current cars don't conform, eh?
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27-07-2010, 04:18 PM | #3 | ||
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due to the size of our country and population, it isn't cheap to manufacture in australia compared to the rest of the world. by forcing the industry to operate a certain way you are almost garaunteeing that the auto industry in australia moves largely offshore to remain competitive.
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27-07-2010, 04:55 PM | #4 | ||
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greens is full of bored opinionated uni students who bludged off their parents for way too long and have lost all grasp of reality...
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27-07-2010, 05:05 PM | #5 | |||
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27-07-2010, 05:13 PM | #6 | |||
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27-07-2010, 05:19 PM | #7 | |||
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Last time I checked we were still an island continent not attached to europe with a totally different population and land area so who cares what europe does? like emission targets Euro 4 ,5, 6 what about aussie 1 compliance (it goes, it stops, its safe) we dont have 20 million people living in each others pockets
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27-07-2010, 06:43 PM | #8 | ||
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Whats the problem? We've all read so much about One Ford, Toyota are already a global company, GM heading that way also.
This means; a: making cars that conform with European/World standards should be par for the course anyway. b: If the Australian industry is allowed to continue producing cars that can only be sold in this country, they'll fall further behind, quickly become irrelevant, and cease to exist altogether. Vote +1 Green! |
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27-07-2010, 06:51 PM | #9 | |||
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New labour policy.
Gillard commits to fuel consumption standards by 2015 http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...25776D00123BF7 Quote:
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27-07-2010, 06:57 PM | #10 | |||
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27-07-2010, 07:33 PM | #11 | |||||
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27-07-2010, 07:46 PM | #12 | |||
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27-07-2010, 08:16 PM | #13 | ||
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this is a political thread so is on shaky ground from the start.
word of advice to keep the thread about the idea, not your opinions on that particular party.
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27-07-2010, 08:37 PM | #14 | ||
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I think if that is what they want to do, then so be it. Im not interested in forking out for a new car just to keep the whimsical idea of "climate change" on life support. We have the ability to make nice new cars thatll keep the hippies happy. As long as I get to keep driving my noisy, smelly, inefficient, petrol powered pushrodosaurus V8s then all is well.
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27-07-2010, 08:57 PM | #17 | ||
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I think the concept is that pushrods are obsolete, regardless of whether they were introduced after OHC or not. OHC is the modern acceptable valvetrain design. Yes I am aware that GM still employ OHV in their LS engines, and im sure others still do too. I wont try and debate which is a more efficient design, im not an engineer. But many feel that is the consensus.
I just love the term because i find it a humourous play on words. Plus it makes my opinion on the matter more obvious to those that blindly follow what is fed to them (not that im trying to imply this on my fellow forum members). Thats all. |
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27-07-2010, 09:10 PM | #18 | |||
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27-07-2010, 09:24 PM | #19 | |||
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27-07-2010, 10:04 PM | #20 | ||
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Anyone who thinks tougher CO2 limits are not coming for cars
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27-07-2010, 10:22 PM | #21 | |||
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With One Ford full swing ahead, expect FoA to push the local arm into complying with international standards that are more widely recognised. I wouldn't vote greens but I am all for standardising compliance. How many here keep ramping on about how good the locals are and how they can compete with the imports? Well here is their chance to really prove it. Ford OZ can leverage from their European and US counterparts. Next step, rid of ADR.
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28-07-2010, 12:43 AM | #22 | ||
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i think its a gud idea
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28-07-2010, 01:54 AM | #23 | ||
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its probably inevitable we will be driving one brand of motor car in 30 years, the politically correct wizz kids makeing all the decisions, will put 99% of industry out of business, theres no need to have 20 different car companies makeing an 88 cc 2 seat hyundai getz, anything bigger will waste energy, use more power than an electric kettle, and put out more pollutants than a cat farting after eating Mc Donalds(SARCASM).
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24-02-2011, 01:45 PM | #24 | |||
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Seems Australia is doing well with voluntry targets.
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...25783E00837E6A Australian CO2 tailpipe emissions fall Quote:
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24-02-2011, 03:15 PM | #25 | ||
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This might get me shot but instead of trying to decrease emissions, why dont they cut emissions altogether and start building hydrogen powered cars, the only thing that comes from the exhaust pipe is water. Electric cars are the wrong way to go, hydrogen is the future. Set a date, say 2015 and all cars manufactured from that date must be hydrogen powered, and Im sure they can still build V8s. We can all drive Twin turbo 8 Litre V12 cars without polluting the planet. There could be an exeption for historical & classic vehicles which we all drive rarely anyway.
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24-02-2011, 03:20 PM | #26 | ||
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When did australia join the EU?
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24-02-2011, 06:07 PM | #27 | |||
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You do understand the proposal/idea is for new cars... not everyones cars..
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24-02-2011, 06:23 PM | #28 | ||
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Presently, the national fleet CO2 Average for new vehicles is around 212 gm/km,
that's also way in front of the previous 218 gm target set for 2010 so that 190 gm/km target set for 2015 is quite soft especially if fuel price increases. The legislation sounds wonderful but is basically how FCAI see the market trending.... Bit of a yawn actually.... |
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24-02-2011, 07:10 PM | #30 | |||
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If they made hydrogen cars that were as good as the cars we have today, just without the exhaust, then I would have no problem with buying one. James May on hydrogen cars... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZvyYvbXjEM Greenies and environmentalists are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. Last year they decided they would save the environment by chaining themselves to coal trains and train tracks in the Hunter Valley. So they made a website, using dirty electricity, and told everyone to go to a camp site in the Hunter Valley. So all these people drove from all around Australia to this camp site just east of Musswellbrook. I found passing the campsite was interesting. Commodores, 15yo+ vans, BMW x5, and Mitsubishi Pajaro were just some of the cars driven by these enviro nuts that were 'saving the world'. Not a prius or any other particularly 'green' car in sight. So these people chain themselves to train tracks, police drive their cars down (mostly V8 Holdens and Vans) and arrest these people for trespassing. Meanwhile trains are stopped and idling away using hundreds of litres of fuel without even turning a wheel. Then these people decided to sneak into coal mines and chain themselves to more heavy equipment. So they drive to fences in the middle of nowhere and trespass on mine property. Police called, more V8's and vans turn up and arrest some more people. Mine's hire extra security to drive laps around the property to stop anymore trespassers. Then at the end of it all these people who were arrested have to go to court. So they all have to drive to court at some point. So at the end of their protest the mines are still mining coal, and a bunch of people did a whole lot of pointless driving that otherwise wouldn't of been done. How is that saving the world when they say cars are a major factor of "Global warming" and other myths. |
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