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23-11-2010, 05:41 PM | #1 | |||
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Demerit Point Overhaul:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1225958838747 Overview:
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23-11-2010, 05:45 PM | #2 | ||
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its so they can keep you on the road so they can keep handing out fines. harder to fine you if your not on the road.
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23-11-2010, 05:58 PM | #3 | ||
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If she was really serious, the Territories would be gone.
This is just a desperate grab for votes.
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23-11-2010, 06:07 PM | #4 | ||
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I like how on when interviewed, some 'road safety spokesperson' announced that drivers in NSW now have 13 demerit points to lose before they lose their license. I thought the drivers who haven't been caught speeding, etc... (i.e the good drivers) had no demerit points on there license and the bad drivers (the speeding devils) earned demerit points by being evil? They are called DE-merit points because having them on your license is a NEGATIVE thing. If we started out with 12 or 13 points and lost them every time we got caught doing something evil then they would be called MERIT points.
Even the jerks that come up with this rubbish don't know WTF they are talking about. EDIT: ...and getting rid of demerit points for not using your blinker will help. I'm working on a device that all drivers can use to read each others minds thereby negating the need for blinkers at all. |
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23-11-2010, 06:10 PM | #5 | ||
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Why don't they just call them "Penalty units" or some crap.
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23-11-2010, 06:20 PM | #6 | |||
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23-11-2010, 06:26 PM | #7 | |||
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23-11-2010, 06:28 PM | #8 | |||
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23-11-2010, 07:10 PM | #9 | ||
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How to ensure you win the election:
If already in power: Get rid of the road "safety" camera 6 months before election To get into power: Declare you will get rid of the road "safety" camera, then when elected, wait unitl 6 months before the next election to get rid of them. Damn, I should become a pollie!! |
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23-11-2010, 07:46 PM | #10 | ||
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we should have a points system that is determined by how old you are.. eg.. i'm 35.... i should have 35 points...
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23-11-2010, 08:18 PM | #11 | ||
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This is a joke! It's a cash grab by keeping the ignorant boobs on the road, masked as a political spin to win votes.
At present I am a bus driver, so professional driver, in Sydney for Hillsbus. Every morning driving into town on the Gorehill the cops are in the breakdown bay pulling in drivers who run the T2 lane. Never less than 3 cars pulled in, and they go 'em for speeding, defects, rego, bus lane bit, the lot. Those cops are a mint factory. This points overhaul just keeps the money lining the govvy coffers. If it was about safety then the punishment harsh and the license lost. The idiocy, ignorance and arrogance will never be addressed by money & demerit points.
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24-11-2010, 02:22 AM | #12 | |||
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In the beginning (a point in time where you have not made any boo boos) you are permitted a set amount of boo boo points that you can lose before it becomes apparent you are unwilling to even try to not make boo boo's. Each boo boo results in you having less boo boo points to play with, until you have made one too many boo boos that your boo boo points are less than or equal to zero for a given time period, and your licence is then suspended. That is, youre not licenced to drive unless you have in your possession, at least 1 boo boo point. A good driver still has in their possession all their allocated boo boo points, as they have not needed to utilise them. |
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24-11-2010, 08:27 AM | #13 | ||
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NO loss of points for not indicating? WTF? That's one of the most dangerous things someone can do on the road!
JUst because it's become the norm to not give a toss about your fellow man, and to merge without care or thought of what others are doing or might have planned, doesn't mean it should be acceptable! FFS! |
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24-11-2010, 08:36 AM | #14 | ||
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I completely agree with Trippy, absolute crock when i read that.. I like the Spoonman's opinion on triple m - it's all a cunning plan to keep us in our cars to create more revenue from fines, instead of taking people off the road
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24-11-2010, 08:47 AM | #15 | |||
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Sorry but in Victoria 3kph is the difference between you being a marginal citizen and a demon from hell speeder hoon responsible for the death of millions.......... Speed either kills ............or it dosnt. Cant have it both ways government!
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24-11-2010, 09:57 AM | #16 | |||
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The not indicating change up is pathetic in my opinion. The likely hood that the new rules were drafted by somebody who does not know how to indicate at a roundabout and as such "What the hell are they doing in a job that the has the potential of causeing pile ups". However the "everyone does it anyway" attitude may lead to speeding being allowed someday soon by their logic.
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24-11-2010, 10:28 AM | #17 | ||||
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If you were penalised by getting points for boo boos, then only those caught would have boo boo points. Quote:
Youre not making any sense. They can have it both ways. Speed, can lead to situations that are known to kill. Obviously those events can happen at 100 too, on a 100 km/h stretch of road. Let me ask, is the concept of road rules like speeding that appall you, or the revenue raising of cameras? |
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24-11-2010, 10:43 AM | #18 | ||
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obviously they are doing this because people are complaining - which is good.
Now complain some more (to your members and the ministers) that they are taking this p1ss. I wont post the details becuase nsw change minister so often it will be out of date in 2 days but go to this link and send an email (i dont think they read FF that much). http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/pro...rrentMinisters This is just a cash grab - if you able to keep your licence longer, they can fine you more. Its that simple. If speeding is so bad, why have they now allowed me to get busted 2 more times for exceeding the spped limit by <10km/h. As a motor cyclist, the indicator issue is one of the biggest dangers i face - round-abouts inparticular . - these guys are a joke (not as big a joke as those that vote for them). |
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24-11-2010, 02:19 PM | #19 | ||
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I'm not in a job listed as a 'Professional driver', but Do I get 14 points if I drive Hundreds of kilometers for work everyday?
They need to get over the speed ********. Yes doing 30 over the limit in the middle of the day is pretty dangerous, but doing 10 over, especially at 3am is not very dangerous at all. It probably safer because you get off the road ASAP. The only accident I have been is was about 2 years ago, I was doing 10 BELOW the speed limit, and the other car was probably doing 20 BELOW the speed limit. Problem was the other guy was not watching where he was going and decided to cut across the wrong side of the road right in front of me. Cop said he will get a warning for something, big deal not like that would of affected him. But if he was doing 10 over the speed limit the cop would of fined him and told him he is a crazy manic that is going to kill everyone. |
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24-11-2010, 02:36 PM | #20 | |||
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But I don't agree with all the changes they are proposing.... Some professional and community consultation would be nice(not just NRMA giving their opinion)... given the fact its the community if affects!
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24-11-2010, 09:14 PM | #21 | |||
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If it was purely for safety it would have my support. But we know it's money...
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25-11-2010, 09:34 AM | #22 | |||
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We can now ignore roundabout rules more readily with less punitive demerit damage, AND we can tailgate more often as the demerits one gained from doing so has reduced from three to two! They have simply fine tuned the financial 'sweet spot' as we say. I'll see what they have done in relation to demerit points for doing illegal U-Turns on freeway class roads. Update should be on RTA's website today. They are trying to make Sydney-NSW drivers "as bad" as those based in Melbourne-The Peoples Republic of Viktoria. Not good.
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25-11-2010, 01:15 PM | #23 | |||
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25-11-2010, 01:41 PM | #24 | |||
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To reduce the penalties for these offences is ridiculous. In fact for some of the busier roundabouts it is downright irresponsible considering there are so many idiots who think they are the only ones on the road. **** |
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26-11-2010, 02:20 PM | #25 | |||
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26-11-2010, 10:04 PM | #26 | ||
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Just as a hypo, what would happen if we all stopped speeding for a couple of months...
What other devious rules and bylaws will they introduce to continue to commit their daylight robbery... I'm sure they start to fine drivers for going more than 5 km/h under the limit on the freeway! They'll call us dangerous menaces trying to create accidents... thieving *****.
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27-11-2010, 01:30 AM | #27 | ||
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I think giving people a licence without formally training them & then booking them when they find out the hard way how to drive is just a cash grab & not Road Safety.
Adding points is just mockng the system, of taking the licence off pepole that shouldnt have one. What there really saying is drive as bad as you want as long as you can pay the bills. If they actually funded Advanced Driver training subsidies instead of "safety Cameras" not only would they get my vote they would probably reduce the road toll. But how can they make money if people dont make as many mistakes?? & it costs them money to do that. |
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28-11-2010, 11:00 AM | #28 | |||
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BTW i think these new "safety cameras" are teh most unsafe thing since razor blades in watermelons, the RTA actually enforce on driving tests checking the intersection before going through it I always do it as you just cause the light is green does not mean that someone else is not being stupid but now we are all drones fixated on our speedos let the accidents ensue. Also I can see what a vote grabber this is and how dodge, corrupt and desperate this government is but I would really not be surprised if they win again im sorry i am sydney born and bred but there is so many stupid ppl in this town who will fall for this sorta crap and than kenally will receive her bonus board seat from Macquarie Bank and we will proceed one step closer to the ninth level of hell.
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28-11-2010, 11:33 AM | #29 | ||
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If the NSW government were the least bit honest about their true intentions,
they would do away with the demerit points system and just the triple fines. Everyone knows that the motorist is the biggest cash cow the government has.... |
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28-11-2010, 07:22 PM | #30 | |||
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