November 2010 Car Sales

[jpd80]

Top 10 sales by model:

1. Toyota Corolla – 4536
2. Holden Commodore – 3771
3. Toyota HiLux – 3241
4. Mazda3 – 2980
5. Holden Cruze – 2721
6. Ford Falcon – 2368
7. Toyota Yaris – 2270
8. Toyota Camry – 2232
9. Hyundai i30 – 1772
10. Nissan Navara – 1733


Top 10 sales by marque:

1. Toyota – 19,911
2. Holden – 11,354
3. Ford – 7844
4. Mazda – 6474
5. Hyundai – 6220
6. Nissan – 5263
7. Mitsubishi – 5015
8. Volkswagen – 3427
9. Subaru – 3378
10. Honda – 2488

[Brazen]

Crazy month for Corolla!

Holden Cruze is going to be a BIG seller once they get the hatch, wagon, sports versions, local production and turbo 1.4 here.

[Poetic Justice]

2.9% finance on Corolla will do that!

[TheInterceptor]

Excellent, more Falcons than Yaris/Camry's.

Ah what a good month that was....

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by Brazen

Holden Cruze is going to be a BIG seller once they get the hatch, wagon, sports versions, local production and turbo 1.4 here.

Holden this, Holden that. Wagon and sport versions are rumours at the moment and local production is not going to offer the same sort of price incentives that low cost production in Korean can - not without loosing some blood somewhere else on the balance sheet.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Holden this, Holden that. Wagon and sport versions are rumours at the moment and local production is not going to offer the same sort of price incentives that low cost production in Korean can - not without loosing some blood somewhere else on the balance sheet.

Three words: Made in Australia.

Cruze will be seen as more Aussie than Thai built Focus and Corolla.

[GreenR]

Hmm appears Ford can't quite win over the small car buyers

[big_landau]

falcon at number 6,has it ever been lower than that?

[Gobes32]

That is a lot of Corollas, was not aware of the finance promotion. Very clever move by Toyota.

And I still don't know how Holden plan to make money from Cruze...............?

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Gobes32

That is a lot of Corollas, was not aware of the finance promotion. Very clever move by Toyota.

And I still don't know how Holden plan to make money from Cruze...............?

They will make money, labor assembly costs of cars is only about 10-15% of total manufacturing costs.
Most of those start up and tooling costs are covered by Korean and USA manufacturing.

[4.0i_SiX]

Originally Posted by plarazza

Hmm appears Ford can't quite win over the small car buyers

Put the tail lights where theyre supposed to be a watch the sales increase

[csv8]

Cruze out sold the Falcon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sxckevo]

:( what do we do...what do we do :(

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by csv8

Cruze out sold the Falcon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, and about 250-300 of those Falcon sales were new FPV V8s.

it feels like Ford will wait until Falcon falls out of the top ten before declaring its hand,
that doesn't mean Falcon sales will fall further, more like other vehicles becoming more popular.
Sales numbers are important to falcon but so too is product mix and without knowing how that will change,
we're really only guessing. It still doesn't look good.....

[Fordman1]

More down days

[Gobes32]

Originally Posted by jpd80

They will make money, labor assembly costs of cars is only about 10-15% of total manufacturing costs.
Most of those start up and tooling costs are covered by Korean and USA manufacturing.

So no stamping in Australia? How is it Australian made if it is only Australian assembled?

[gtfpv]

i still dont get why commadore almost doubles falcon sales , and why the falcon doesnt fair too well . is it international sales .? does anyone know why the falcon doesnt compete too well?

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by Gobes32

So no stamping in Australia? How is it Australian made if it is only Australian assembled?

Because its a Holden!!1!

[mik]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

i still dont get why commadore almost doubles falcon sales , and why the falcon doesnt fair too well . is it international sales .? does anyone know why the falcon doesnt compete too well?

better advertiseing/higher discounting would be my guess, do they make the same profit margins though?

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Gobes32

So no stamping in Australia? How is it Australian made if it is only Australian assembled?

All buyers will hear is that Cruze is built in Australia and has a Holden badge,
that's all that matters to most people who buy Holdens.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by gtfpv

i still dont get why commadore almost doubles falcon sales , and why the falcon doesnt fair too well . is it international sales .? does anyone know why the falcon doesnt compete too well?

We talked about this in a thread not so long ago, Holden sells
more Omegas but it also sells a lot more high series/V8 cars too.

So in essence, Holden is outflanking Ford at both ends of the market.
It will be interesting to see the respective company profits for 2010,
I think both of them will turn in much better performances.

[prydey]

as usual on aff, there is an overwhelming obsession with sales numbers. Oh no, falcon is down to 6th. Apparently, not only do people want falcon to win its own class its meant to compete with small, medium and commercial cars too. People looking at corollas won't even be thinking of falcon. Same goes for hilux, mazda 3 and cruze.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by prydey

as usual on aff, there is an overwhelming obsession with sales numbers. Oh no, falcon is down to 6th.

Lower sales numbers mean more down days for line employees at Broadmeadows.
it must be embarrassing for Ford officials that the Falcon is selling so poorly in this its
50th Anniversary year, I'm sure that the brass were expecting a much bigger buyer response.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Lower sales numbers mean more down days for line employees at Broadmeadows.
it must be embarrassing for Ford officials that the Falcon is selling so poorly in this its
50th Anniversary year, I'm sure that the brass were expecting a much bigger buyer response.

Lots of assumptions there. Many of these discussions are just guesswork. often those who are the most vocal are those who think winning the arguements down at the pub is important.

[Joe5619]

That Falcon number is very bad, especially considering the backlog of FPV V8 sales that would be included in that number... Problem is, with LiLPG, I4 EB & XR8 over 8-9 months away things won’t get any better anytime soon... I'm guessing when the new Territory comes out, it will be Fords best selling car month in, month out... God hopes they are at least still making money on these numbers??

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by prydey

Lots of assumptions there.

Hey, don't take my word for it mate, there are more down days planned this month and January.
Ford is starting to see a back log of unsold car because dealers refuse to carry the stock themselves.

[jmillf]

No 3 not bad!

[Bossxr8]

Not having any LPG cars to sell is taking away a massive chunk of Falcon sales. Simple as that.

December, January and February will be shockers. Down days a plenty.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Not having any LPG cars to sell is taking away a massive chunk of Falcon sales. Simple as that.

December, January and February will be shockers. Down days a plenty.

Was E-Gas production, roughly 20% of sedan builds?
if so, that means around 4 days a month lost production.

[Bossxr8]

Somewhere between 20 to 30%, depending on the month.