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Old 27-01-2012, 11:36 PM   #1
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why wasn't it produced. it is a good idea and could have been a competitor to the crewman
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Old 27-01-2012, 11:41 PM   #2
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why wasn't it produced. it is a good idea and could have been a competitor to the crewman
There's a reason they don't make the crewman anymore...
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Old 27-01-2012, 11:42 PM   #3
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A concept was made during the AU days, but it wasn't produced. The Crewman doesn't exist anymore so Ford didn't need it anyway.
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Old 28-01-2012, 02:08 PM   #4
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Ford went with the Territory instead.
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Old 28-01-2012, 02:52 PM   #5
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Thats a awesome concept anymore info?
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Old 28-01-2012, 02:57 PM   #6
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Thats a awesome concept anymore info?
Here's an article about the R5 concept from 2000
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...256B03001C3500
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Old 28-01-2012, 03:05 PM   #7
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I think the fact that crewman does not exist anymore and was never a volume seller is clear indication of the reason. Reaching an acceptable compromise between rear leg room, rear seat position and tray size is difficult to do on existing platforms without prohibitive production costs and subsequent RRP. Crewman did not do this well and was a liability to Holden, therefore it got the axe. If you ask me ford did the right thing not producing one.
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Old 28-01-2012, 04:06 PM   #8
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The concept full-size model is still in the Ford Museum in Geelong.
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Old 28-01-2012, 04:11 PM   #9
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There's a reason they don't make the crewman anymore...
Yes, its called a new platform known as the VE.
If the VE was based off the previous platform, the Crewman would still exist, possibly along with the Monaro as well.
However, Holden couldnt afford to engineer the new platform to suit anything other than the current line up - the very same reason the Sportwagon is based on the sedan platform.
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Old 28-01-2012, 05:40 PM   #10
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There has been a custom one made out of an au wagon, it also has a ba front on it. I can't seem to find it on carsales anymore though.
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Old 28-01-2012, 05:45 PM   #11
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The R5 was just a fancy product assment...you'll find it has a BA style interior...
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Yes, its called a new platform known as the VE.
If the VE was based off the previous platform, the Crewman would still exist, possibly along with the Monaro as well.
However, Holden couldnt afford to engineer the new platform to suit anything other than the current line up - the very same reason the Sportwagon is based on the sedan platform.
And, holden were making profit back then...Holden saved money as the VT platform was a stetched and widend opel omega platform...

The wagon and ute are actually the same platform...
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Old 28-01-2012, 07:19 PM   #13
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Ford went with the Territory instead.
True and a great call on their behalf.

But considering the 2011 4x4 ute market segment is now a much larger part of than at the time it's easy to look back with rose coloured glasses and think, it would now be great for them to have R5 too.
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Old 28-01-2012, 11:07 PM   #14
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A concept was made during the AU days, but it wasn't produced. The Crewman doesn't exist anymore so Ford didn't need it anyway.

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Id buy that over a Territory any day of the week...
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Old 28-01-2012, 11:53 PM   #15
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Id buy that over a Territory any day of the week...
Until you wanted to sit in the back I bet. Look how short that rear door is.

I personally would love this style of ute. I would be happy to sacrifice 200mm of tray length to get better rear cabin space.
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Old 29-01-2012, 02:34 PM   #16
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Until you wanted to sit in the back I bet. Look how short that rear door is.

I personally would love this style of ute. I would be happy to sacrifice 200mm of tray length to get better rear cabin space.
Well my Courier isnt too far off it, I have people fighting over the front seat!

Im in agreeance with you. Truth be told i dont carry many passengers in the back for long anyway so it fits the bill.
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Old 29-01-2012, 06:48 PM   #17
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True and a great call on their behalf.

But considering the 2011 4x4 ute market segment is now a much larger part of than at the time it's easy to look back with rose coloured glasses and think, it would now be great for them to have R5 too.
It could have made sense if they'd released it now, but back then the SUV segment was starting to boom and the Territory came in and smashed it wide open. Perfect timing and Geoff Polites pulled off a masterstroke.

The dual cab ute segment didn't really start taking off until a few years ago, so if they'd released the R5 in 2003/4 it probably wouldn't have gone that well. Didn't really matter as the Falcon ute was selling in really high numbers back then. It would be a great addition to the Falcon ute lineup if it was available now, but Ranger fills that space anyway now so its a bit of a mute point.
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Old 30-01-2012, 11:20 AM   #18
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Old 30-01-2012, 11:58 AM   #19
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And, holden were making profit back then...Holden saved money as the VT platform was a stetched and widend opel omega platform...

The wagon and ute are actually the same platform...
but to be fair we don't know which models were profitable for Holden. they may have lost some on some models but made it up on others.
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