Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-03-2012, 12:19 AM   #1
Bent8
Long live the GT !
 
Bent8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Perth WA
Posts: 1,863
Default New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

I came across this the other day and I really have to ask the question....

Has BMW lost the plot?

http://jalopnik.com/5843332/new-bmw-...-your-pleasure

New BMW M5 fakes its engine noise for your pleasure
When we drove the 2012 M5 on a frozen lake we felt the Bavarian stormer was great but a little disappointing in its engine sounds. BMW's fix: a new piece of technology that pumps synthetic engine noise into the cabin. Is it better to know someone's faking in advance?
While high-end luxury cars have been moving towards tomb-quiet interiors — with many now using noise-cancelling tech to block what little they can't muffle — enthusiasts who buy sedans such as the 560-hp M5 still equate excitement with engine revs. So do authorities in European countries, who've enacted tougher anti-noise regulations that sports car makers struggle to meet.

BMW's solution involves a digital signal processor tied to the engine computer that pumps a recreation of the twin-turbo V8's engine noise through the car's stereo system, spread evenly so that all passengers can enjoy. The system not only matches the engine's activity, but will even adjust its output for the car's various software-controlled sport driving modes. The result, says BMW, is "an even more direct reminder of their car's performance" than actual engine noise. No word if it will also sync with the engine if and when it breaks down.

Purists are already saying this tech is a far cry from the true pleasure of performance that BMW is supposed to stand for, but they don't see the opportunities at hand. If the system can synthesize a V8 engine sound, why not let it take other noises as well? BMW could offer a whole buzztone store, from the previous generation V10 to the six-cylinder from the original M1 or even the turbo snarl of a '80s Formula 1 mill. Just selling cars that make their own noise is so last century.

Hat tip to M2M!

__________________
2018 Ford Mustang GT - Oxford White | Auto | Herrod Tune | K&N Filter | StreetFighter Oil Separators | H&R Springs | Whiteline Vertical Links | Ceramic Protection | Tint

"Whatya think of me car, XR Falcon, 351 Blown Cleveland running Motec injection and runnin' on methanol... goes pretty hard too, got heaps of torque for chucking burnouts, IT'S UNREAL !!" - Poida
Bent8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 12:37 AM   #2
Rockape
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Rockape's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Mandurah W.A
Posts: 503
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

Wow that is so lame.
__________________
PX1 Ranger

Kawasaki ZZR1100
Rockape is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 12:43 AM   #3
TheZHLANE
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
TheZHLANE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Perth
Posts: 904
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

Answer, yes.
__________________
RIDES
76 ZH Fairlane 500, Mushroom Beige, Brown vinyl roof, 351 c4 13.361 @ 104mph 2.001 60ft 208rwkw
ZH BUILD
TheZHLANE is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 01:28 AM   #4
BHDOGS
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,290
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

a prius with a v12rumble as you drive along! hahahahaha gay
BHDOGS is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 08:42 AM   #5
Cheech
HELL YES
 
Cheech's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Penriff
Posts: 647
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

One for the Excel doof doof boys:

http://www.latestbuy.com.au/sound-ra...ansmitter.html
__________________
2016 Focus RS Nitrous Blue Ordered 3/11/2015 and delivered 22/6/2016

2019 Ssangyong Rexton fourby (the daily driver, tow pig & snowmobile)
Cheech is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 08:59 AM   #6
Wretched
Render unto Caesar
 
Wretched's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ::1
Posts: 4,236
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

kind of sad to see M sport doing that.
If the car is silent inside then so be it.
The car is a luxury sports sedan, let the performance do the talking.
More importantly the you can still hear it from the outside anyway.
__________________
"Aliens might be surprised to learn that in a cosmos with limitless starlight, humans kill for energy sources buried in sand." - Neil deGrasse Tyson
Wretched is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 09:02 AM   #7
madwag
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
madwag's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vic, Ormond
Posts: 2,208
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

just drill a couple holes through the firewall. hahah
__________________
WTB. Black BF front door trims, BF wagon books, terry ducting.

The Daily's Build.
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11349360

Weekender: '69 VW Notchback
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthr...24#post4531824
madwag is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 09:42 AM   #8
aussie muscle
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
aussie muscle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,312
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

why not just give them a soundracer?
found the same problem on my XR8 ute. not enough volume. people kept asking if it was an XR6 till i changed the exhaust.
__________________
My ride: 2007 Falcon Ute BF XR8 Orange, MTO.
aussie muscle is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 09:45 AM   #9
2011G6E
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
2011G6E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: On The Footplate.
Posts: 5,086
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

Been going on for years, the EU noise regs. That's why Harley Davidson has a "special exemption" to be able to even sell most of its bikes in Europe, as an air-cooled engine cannot meet the noise requirements.
Keep in mind these aren't "exhaust noise" restrictions but rather "mechanical noise" limits, the kind of pleasant sounds you hear from up front when the engine is running, rather than the ones coming from the exhaust out the back.
2011G6E is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 01:38 PM   #10
mash again
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 994
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

wouldnt that be like having a talking rubber girlfriend?
mash again is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 05:08 PM   #11
350125GO
67 Galaxie Hardtop
 
350125GO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Penrith, NSW
Posts: 397
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

Europeans for you... Here in Aus we are not much better. Mind you loads of people break the law re: sound. USA has higher limits then us, and it shows with brand new cars and exhausts.
350125GO is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 05:23 PM   #12
BA-XT
2003 BA Falcon XT
 
BA-XT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Wyndhamvale, Victoria
Posts: 1,138
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

............................................______ __
....................................,.-‘”...................``~.,
.............................,.-”...................................“-.,
.........................,/...............................................”:,
.....................,?........................... ...........................\,
.................../.................................................. .........,**
................./.................................................. ....,:`^`..**
.............../.................................................. .,:”........./
..............?.....__............................ .............:`.........../
............./__.(.....“~-,_..............................,:`........../
.........../(_....”~,_........“~,_....................,:`..... ..._/
..........{.._$;_......”=,_.......“-,_.......,.-~-,**,.~”;/....**
...........((.....*~_.......”=-._......“;,,./`..../”............../
...,,,___.\`~,......“~.,....................`..... **............../
............(....`=-,,.......`........................(......;_,,-”
............/.`~,......`-...............................\....../\
.............\`~.*-,.....................................|,./.....\,__
,,_..........**.>-._\...................................|........... ...`=~-,
.....`=~-,_\_......`\,.................................\
...................`=~-,,.\,...............................\
................................`:,,.............. .............`\..............__
.....................................`=-,...................,%`>--==``
........................................_\........ ..._,-%.......`\
...................................,<`.._|_,-&``................`\

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
__________________
2003 BA Ford Falcon XT

IMPCO LPG Vapour Injection.

DETAILING
Meguiar's NXT Car Wash
Collonite #845 Insulator Wax
Bowden's Own Happy Ending & Fully Slick
Chemtech CT-18 Truck Wash (Wheels & Chassis)
Bowden's Own Wheely Clean & Tyre Sheen
Bowden's Own Three Way Paint Decontamination Spray

OILS AND FILTERS
Nulon Full Synthetic 10w-40
Nulon Long Life Coolant
Ryco Oil & Air Filters


My Instagram Account: @ba_falcon2003
BA-XT is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 06:03 PM   #13
JG66ME
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Gisborne Victoria
Posts: 2,662
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Great tech articles and assistance to all in the Classics arena. 
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

Quote:
Originally Posted by mash again
wouldnt that be like having a talking rubber girlfriend?
You have just made my day
JG66ME is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 06:04 PM   #14
fou_bleu
Get EcoBoosted
 
fou_bleu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: NSW: Newcastle, Sydney & Wollongong
Posts: 1,876
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_BA2003
*snip*

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
Holy meme mix, Batman!!! ;)

What's wrong with extra artificial engine sound when laws and user convenience make it difficult to achieve otherwise? It sounded pretty realistic to me...
fou_bleu is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 06:06 PM   #15
SSVPom
Formally FairmontPom
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,127
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

The current VW Polo Gti does the same, with engine noise reproduced through an in dash speaker hidden away !
__________________
1998 XH Falcon V8 S Pack, white, couple of dents. Bogan project
2024 Everest Platinum
SSVPom is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 06:13 PM   #16
BA-XT
2003 BA Falcon XT
 
BA-XT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Wyndhamvale, Victoria
Posts: 1,138
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

I haven't listened to the sounds yet, but regardless this is just.... I can't even find the words. Fake engine sounds? What happened to a nice exhaust note?

I don't often bring the face palm out, but I'm tired today and that was pretty much my reaction after reading the post.
__________________
2003 BA Ford Falcon XT

IMPCO LPG Vapour Injection.

DETAILING
Meguiar's NXT Car Wash
Collonite #845 Insulator Wax
Bowden's Own Happy Ending & Fully Slick
Chemtech CT-18 Truck Wash (Wheels & Chassis)
Bowden's Own Wheely Clean & Tyre Sheen
Bowden's Own Three Way Paint Decontamination Spray

OILS AND FILTERS
Nulon Full Synthetic 10w-40
Nulon Long Life Coolant
Ryco Oil & Air Filters


My Instagram Account: @ba_falcon2003
BA-XT is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 06:16 PM   #17
nipper575
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
nipper575's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Tasmania
Posts: 511
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

May as well just whack an electric motor in it and be done with it, it will sound the same to the driver.

I hate where the car industry is headed, it's going to be hard to be a car enthusiast when everything sounds like a kitchen appliance...
__________________
2005 BA MK II XR8 Ute - Shockwave
nipper575 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 08:03 PM   #18
Till_Lind
E-series fan
 
Till_Lind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Brisbane, Qld
Posts: 280
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

Lame. I love Merc and Beemer both, but Mercedes are making better looking vehicles nowadays. The 90s and early 2000s was a glorious time to be a BMW fan.
__________________
E39 523i
EF Fairmont
Till_Lind is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 08:15 PM   #19
Rodp
Regular Schmuck
 
Rodp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 5,640
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

Contrary to popular opinion.

I'm a V8 man, owned 10+ of them. Currently own an F6. Cabin noise is exceptionally disappointing, I'll occasionally notice a zzzzzzzzt if I put the boot in. Not about to add things that make my car go chhhhhh or wooop wooop wooop wooop wooop, so something that is piped into the cabin would probably satisfy my craving for noise.
Rodp is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 08:43 PM   #20
Djrystofer
Regular Member
 
Djrystofer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 134
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodp
Contrary to popular opinion.

I'm a V8 man, owned 10+ of them. Currently own an F6. Cabin noise is exceptionally disappointing, I'll occasionally notice a zzzzzzzzt if I put the boot in. Not about to add things that make my car go chhhhhh or wooop wooop wooop wooop wooop, so something that is piped into the cabin would probably satisfy my craving for noise.
That Varex exhaust from Xforce sounds decent
Open exhaust when you want it to be loud, Restricted at the push of a remote button when youre pulled over
Djrystofer is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 08:58 PM   #21
Bossxr8
Peter Car
 
Bossxr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: geelong
Posts: 23,145
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

Very lame BMW M gmbh.

What happened too you man, you used to be cool.

The BMW M3 CSL would be shaking its head in disgust, the makers of one of the best sounding cars ever has been reduced to this.
Bossxr8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 09:48 PM   #22
Shonky.
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Shonky.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 4,819
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

give yourself an uppercut bmw
Shonky. is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 10:47 PM   #23
Matty4
Banana
 
Matty4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Wandin North, VIC
Posts: 2,031
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bent8
Is it better to know someone's faking in advance?
Hmmmm......................probably not!!!!
__________________
2024 Ford Ranger Wildtrak V6 w/PP
2012 WK2 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland CRD
Matty4 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 10:57 PM   #24
Luke Plaizier
Lukeyson
Donating Member1
 
Luke Plaizier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Maitland, NSW
Posts: 2,584
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

Man. The resistance to anything new on this forum is palpable.


Lukeyson
__________________
If the human brain was simple enough to understand, we'd be too simple to understand it.
Luke Plaizier is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 02-03-2012, 11:24 PM   #25
gcg2503
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 10,840
Valued Contributor: For members whose non technical contributions are worthy of recognition. - Issue reason: Always adding valued comments,  never involved in any disputes. A credit to this forum. 
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

Mercedes Benz AMG have got the sound down pat

A mate just bought this little gem. heaven.

gcg2503 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-03-2012, 01:44 AM   #26
Bent8
Long live the GT !
 
Bent8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Perth WA
Posts: 1,863
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

Quote:
Originally Posted by gcg2503
Mercedes Benz AMG have got the sound down pat

A mate just bought this little gem. heaven.

image
You got that right, the Eisenmann zorst on the C63 is spot on from the factory and I've heard some aftermarket one's which don't sound as good...

What BMW has done is laughable... basically what they're telling their customers is "yes, the turbo's drown out the throaty V8 sound but how 'bout we give you a digital soundtrack instead"

What happens if you get a call on the bluetooth while you're enjoying the V8 soundtrack?... I guess the driver will think their $250,000 super sedan just stalled !!
__________________
2018 Ford Mustang GT - Oxford White | Auto | Herrod Tune | K&N Filter | StreetFighter Oil Separators | H&R Springs | Whiteline Vertical Links | Ceramic Protection | Tint

"Whatya think of me car, XR Falcon, 351 Blown Cleveland running Motec injection and runnin' on methanol... goes pretty hard too, got heaps of torque for chucking burnouts, IT'S UNREAL !!" - Poida
Bent8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-03-2012, 05:16 AM   #27
Shonky.
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Shonky.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 4,819
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

To me this would be like having a super model in your bed, but choosing to rub one out to her calendar on your wall instead
Shonky. is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-03-2012, 05:26 AM   #28
Shonky.
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Shonky.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 4,819
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke Plaizier
Man. The resistance to anything new on this forum is palpable.


Lukeyson
Guy, I'm all for innovation, but keep it in perspective: they are playing engine sounds through the stereo.

The reason I love the sound of an engine is cause you can think about the sounds and what they mean. As I listen to the whine on my 5.0 I think about the vanes on the airpump cramming air down into the coyote cylinders and I understand why it's shoving me back in my seat. Yep, I would like it be be a bit louder. I am glad they elected to leave the bonnet insulation off to assist this, but if my car had a stereo soundtrack of the engine this would ruin it, cause I'd know what I was listening too

I too used to jam a stick against the wheel of my bmx to make an engine sound, but I was 10 and even then I knew in my heart it was a stick, not a barking two stroke
Shonky. is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-03-2012, 05:28 AM   #29
XP6
Formerly ST170ish
 
XP6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Down south
Posts: 1,674
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

why cant they just wind down a window... KISS
XP6 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-03-2012, 01:17 PM   #30
In Focus
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: W.A.
Posts: 1,717
Default Re: New BMW M5 fakes it's engine noise for your pleasure

It's a bit like a lip synching singer really.
__________________
His: 2019 Ford Focus SA Trend with Driver Assist Pack: 1.5 Ecoboost 3-cylinder (yes, 3 cylinders!), 8-speed automatic in Ruby Red.

Hers: 2020 Ford Puma JK: 1.0 Ecoboost 3-cylinder, 7-speed DCT in Frozen White.
In Focus is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 03:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL