EcoBoost G6E beats Merc E-Class and Audi A6 4cyls

imugli · 15-06-2012, 12:27 PM

Guys,

Caught the current edition of Motor last night with G6E vs A6 vs E-Class 4cyls and G6E was pretty surprised to see G6E come out on top!

Now, I take what Motor and Wheels say with a grain of salt, but this is a pretty good win regardless...

Well done to the FoA boys!

Smoke Pursuit · 15-06-2012, 12:33 PM

Yes... Now lets hope Ford use it to their advantage, instead of ignoring the good publicity.

**Polyal** · 15-06-2012, 12:38 PM

That is great, as dash said they need to get the word out to people who dont read forums or car mags.

Did they test the others all in auto? Can you get manuals for them too?

Smoke Pursuit · 15-06-2012, 01:14 PM

They were all autos.. the Audi / Merc were both 7 speeds. Both slower then the Falcon, and also pulled up slower then the Falcon...

There needs to be alot more said about the Ecoboost Falcon, in particular the G6E... If you ask me its a world class car let down by a few shortcomings.

imugli · 15-06-2012, 01:20 PM

Agreed. This is absolutely worth bragging about until the cows come home. No journalist has had more than a minor quibble here or there with regards to this thing and now that it's knocked off a couple of highly sought after aspirational marques, it's time to get the word out

aston · 15-06-2012, 01:28 PM

The article was a great one. The Fuel economy was close even though the official economy of the German's was a lot lower and the G6E quite a bit quicker. The only shortcoming with the G6E was the quality of the interior and the number of technological toys.

Smoke Pursuit · 15-06-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by aston

The article was a great one. The Fuel economy was close even though the official economy of the German's was a lot lower and the G6E quite a bit quicker. The only shortcoming with the G6E was the quality of the interior and the number of technological toys.

And to be honest I dont know what they expected.

It has satnav, touch screen, reverse camera, bluetooth, bluetooth streaming, 6 way power drivers seat with memory.... What more do they want? A set of xenon headlights and perhaps a sunroof would probably fix most of their issues, but for the money you really cannot beat it.

I would like to see it up against Honda Accord Euro Luxury and Mazda 6... Cars which it is more closely priced.

superfly · 15-06-2012, 01:32 PM

You are right that they need to say more about Ecoboost. I see plenty of Ford ads these days but none mention the Ecoboost Falcon, which is a real shame.

Wretched · 15-06-2012, 01:38 PM

Can't wait to read the article to get insight into the lows and highs of each model and what their criteria was.

turbodewd · 15-06-2012, 02:01 PM

No doubt the G6E won massively on price!

NickosBF2XRT · 15-06-2012, 02:04 PM

Did any one else notice the difference in qtr mile time from WHEELS and MOTOR for th ecoboost? One got 14.8 the other 15.2..WTF?

flappist · 15-06-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by turbodewd

No doubt the G6E won massively on price!

I reckon if you won lotto you would complain that you had to go to the bank to pick the money up......

Rodge · 15-06-2012, 02:25 PM

7G Tronic boxes in Merc are very average bits of kit, 6 speed ZF is far more efficient, much smoother and out of this world more intuative / adaptive.
Honest opinion from someone who has both. So many enthusiasts on here take the brilliance of the german designed ZF for granted. Its a world class bit of kit yet you never hear Ford trumpeting the news, go figure ?

flappist · 15-06-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NickosEL

Did any one else notice the difference in qtr mile time from WHEELS and MOTOR for th ecoboost? One got 14.8 the other 15.2..WTF?

Wheels test the cars with 2 people, full fuel on an ordinary road to simulate normal drivin gonditions.

**Mechan1k** · 15-06-2012, 03:27 PM

Now they just need Ford EcoBoost ... Euro beater in their ads.

HULK EF · 15-06-2012, 03:52 PM

Need some clever ad's.. kind of like the "your-move" and "check mate" bill board ads of the euro/german brands.

This needs to be shouted from the roof tops!!!

turbodewd · 15-06-2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

I reckon if you won lotto you would complain that you had to go to the bank to pick the money up......

youve totally misinterpreted my comment. My statement means that the EcoBoost would kill the other 2 on price, i.e the 2 euros would be very expensive for what you get.

Joe5619 · 15-06-2012, 04:19 PM

great results for EB.. But what's the point when Ford refuse to tell another they even built the EB in the first place??

NickosBF2XRT · 15-06-2012, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

Wheels test the cars with 2 people, full fuel on an ordinary road to simulate normal drivin gonditions.

Ah thankx, But I still thought that 14.8 was aboslutley crazy for a car the size of a falcon, with a 4 banger realing off those numbers. They might drop the six in favour of this thing if it really does perform that well. Just need to give it more torque for towing!

OLD BALDY · 15-06-2012, 05:04 PM

WOW came up behind an ECOBOOST Falcon yesterday an thought great they have sold one!!got beside it and BIG letters on the side ECOBOOST, a Fraud company Car!! ah well.

jpd80 · 15-06-2012, 07:58 PM

I wonder, a G6ET with an Ecoboost option..... heck, even the V6 diesel too

Shonky. · 15-06-2012, 08:07 PM

just having a look at the website and all the videos show it as an East West configuration

wonder if this would be confusing to buyers

http://www.ford.com.au/cars/new-falc...=1248926857097

http://www.ford.com.au/cars/new-falc...=1248926857122

**Polyal** · 15-06-2012, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

I wonder, a G6ET with an Ecoboost option..... heck, even the V6 diesel too

Huh? You can get a G6E EB4 cant you?

I know we are all sick of Ford changing names, but G6 doesnt really work with the EB4 does it..but you cant call it a G4 (well you should but the bogans wont like it)...hmm

TDi would be a massive winner...massive.

jpd80 · 15-06-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Huh? You can get a G6E EB4 cant you?

Yes but does a G6E have the same level of trim and options as the G6ET?
Was wanting to see top of the line G series with choice of engines...

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I know we are all sick of Ford changing names, but G6 doesnt really work with the EB4 does it..but you cant call it a G4 (well you should but the bogans wont like it)...hmm

For Ecoboost and V6 Diesel, how about Zetec and Titanium.

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TDi would be a massive winner...massive.

It could add some high end sales..not a bad thing IMO.

**Polyal** · 15-06-2012, 08:31 PM

I dont agree that TDI = high end, id be happy with one in a XT, I know a manual is pushing poo up a hill.

I wasnt aware that the G6ET got much more than the G6E..thought it was just the turbo.

Titanium could work, but it would be another change of name and thats not helping things either. Luckily Ford have obviously been using it with the EU cars so it has some power but you wonder why the public gets confused or doesnt understand Fords line up, its because they cant keep up!

Why dont they just have all engines available in three different trim levels (say X, Y, Z) and be done with it. Having numbers means your always changing.

edit: make X, Y, Z = Trend, XR series and Titanium..done..then option what ever engine you want (EB4, TDI V6, I6/I6T, Coyote

)

jpd80 · 15-06-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

I dont agree that TDI = high end, id be happy with one in a XT, I know a manual is pushing poo up a hill.

I wasnt aware that the G6ET got much more than the G6E..thought it was just the turbo.

Titanium could work, but it would be another change of name and thats not helping things either. Luckily Ford have obviously been using it with the EU cars so it has some power but you wonder why the public gets confused or doesnt understand Fords line up, its because they cant keep up!

Why dont they just have all engines available in three different trim levels (say X, Y, Z) and be done with it. Having numbers means your always changing.

The market has changed for Ford, if their gaze is now more firmly fixed on retail buyers,
then perhaps those former rigid preconceived engine and trim levels now give way to more
optional packaging and flexible build. Anything is possible.

If EcoLPI and Ecoboost don't really excite the market, then there's only V6 diesel and 5.0 V8 left to try..

MITCHAY · 15-06-2012, 08:40 PM

It's a good result no doubt but the negative side in me says I'm sure for the most part those who can fork out for a Merc or Audi probably don't even know Ford exists.

Considering I haven't seen one add on the TV about the Ecoboost it doesn't put faith in Ford making those buyers know about it any time soon either.

Ford need to A) advertise and B) capitalize on any accolades they might achieve in the process in combination with A.

**Polyal** · 15-06-2012, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

The market has changed for Ford, if their gaze is now more firmly fixed on retail buyers,
then perhaps those former rigid preconceived engine and trim levels now give way to more
optional packaging and flexible build. Anything is possible.

If EcoLPI and Ecoboost don't really excite the market, then there's only V6 diesel and 5.0 V8 left to try..

Part of me would like to think that the falcon could work as a higher end product (not blowing my own trumpet but Ive been saying for ages it should just move to sport and luxo models..ie XR and G series) but if its to be produced here then it needs the fleet numbers otherwise it makes little sense..I dont think the Tez can carry the team thaaat much.

If they patch into a GWRD program then that could work..otherwise I am not to sure. We could do the body and the rest (other than some components) come in CKD form. Problem solved, world peace etc

Shonky. · 15-06-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

It's a good result no doubt but the negative side in me says I'm sure for the most part those who can fork out for a Merc or Audi probably don't even know Ford exists.

Considering I haven't seen one add on the TV about the Ecoboost it doesn't put faith in Ford making those buyers know about it any time soon either.

Ford need to A) advertise and B) capitalize on any accolades they might achieve in the process in combination with A.

I don't think they would have much chance of winning over those buying the Germans, it's more about demonstrating the high standard of the product to those who may be in the market for (or tempted to jump into) the Falcon

MITCHAY · 15-06-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by shonkymofo

I don't think they would have much chance of winning over those buying the Germans, it's more about demonstrating the high standard of the product to those who may be in the market for (or tempted to jump into) the Falcon

Agreed and I would not ever expect a market shift but rather picking those off that may think 'Hey this is a decent product I don't see why I should pay more for the Euro'

But of course they need to know about it first and a Motor or Wheels mag article is not going to get much exposure at all realistically.