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13-07-2012, 04:52 PM | #1 | |||
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Interesting to note, they may not have developed the dual cab if they knew BHP was going to insist on 5 star ANCAP. Suprised they sell over 700 Landcruiser Utes a month.
Come on Ford, locally assembled F-series or Ranger? http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2012...0-series-31309 Quote:
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13-07-2012, 05:11 PM | #2 | ||
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Most of the existing cruisers will probably be rusted away by the the time their phased out.
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13-07-2012, 08:23 PM | #3 | ||
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Shame really, i had a BigT[tm. F/O] HJ47 Ute, and it was THE only vehicle i sold thar i shed a tear for.At the dawn of the end of the world, only these trucks will still be running.
SHOULD be lots of hand rubbing at FoA, this is where the F Series can be ready to pounce,,,,game on! |
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13-07-2012, 08:53 PM | #4 | ||
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No big deal, I can't understand why people buy their (Toyota's) rubbish anways.
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13-07-2012, 10:05 PM | #5 | ||
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You seriously can't call the 70 series rubbish. My old man has a 7 year old ute with 220,000 kms which has not had a spanner on it, the only thing he has spent on it in that time was for tyres. He sold his previous ute to my nephew - it has over 670,000 kms on it. Sure they are old and basic, but they are bloody tough.
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13-07-2012, 10:19 PM | #6 | |||
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Its meant to be basic and do the job its asked to do - over and over and over again. It isnt meant to take the kids to school in toorak and then head on down to get a latte. Its just a pity they finally bring out the dual cab and it will get killed off. I can see the dual cabs holding their value when the time comes (more so than a cruiser already does). |
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13-07-2012, 10:25 PM | #7 | ||
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My mates Dad has a cruiser. Uses it as a hunting vehicle, tows his boat, tows a 14ft trailer loaded with 3 bikes and a quad, uses it to commute to and from work, uses it to commute from bundy to brisbane, takes it 4WD. It has well over 650,000 on it and it is STILL going damn strong.
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13-07-2012, 11:13 PM | #8 | |||
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I'd love an F series too, I love the 2001-2006 F250s, but they're still fetching $50-$70K for the 7.3L diesel dual cab ones on the second hand market. 5.4 wouldn't be good enough in something that size I reckon. I've driven a 5.4 Fairmont Ghia and its pretty crappy, let alone something which would probably be pushing close to or over 3 tonnes. New ones are $135K from VDC. Too expensive. |
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13-07-2012, 11:37 PM | #9 | ||
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So the old spine tingler 70 series is going hey. There are a few people on this forum to whom I say - EAT YOUR WORDS SUCKERS!
I agree they are built fantastically tough, simple and basic. But there is no way that they have ever been worth the price Toyota charge for them.
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14-07-2012, 12:56 AM | #10 | |||
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14-07-2012, 01:03 AM | #11 | ||
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Glad i held off getting a hilux, shame because i always wanted one, oh well ill wait for the bubble to burst and get something else.
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14-07-2012, 10:14 AM | #12 | ||
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mining companies can still buy F-Series trucks because they are not driven on the road they are driven in mines and on the country side so if they want them they can certainly get them, as for the demise of the 70 series its a very sad day especially when the only reason they are killed off is because of its safety rating although it surprises me that its only 3 star i'd pay to see what it'd take to kill one!
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14-07-2012, 10:30 AM | #13 | |||
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First of all, mines are best not described as countryside! lol Secondly, and fortunately, the Ancap rating doesn't consider what it takes to kill cars, just people. I think the only 3 commercial type cars which have a 5star rating are the Ford and Mazda utes and the Territory. Good news for ol Enry.
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14-07-2012, 10:38 AM | #14 | |||
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Sorry i must have missed it but how many have you owned again.....? Sad to see them go but ALL good things come to an end.....remember that!
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14-07-2012, 10:45 AM | #15 | ||
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the death of an icon.......many I have driven.....a few I have owned......loved them all especially when they got me home when it was close to impossible
they will be missed
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14-07-2012, 11:06 AM | #16 | ||
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I'd like a 76 series wagon to do an around Australia trip in
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14-07-2012, 11:34 AM | #17 | ||
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There is no way Toyota will let the fleets go, maybe they will develop a 200 series ute?? wouldn't be that hard, people have been doing it individually since the 80 series, surely Toyota could do it.
Maybe they will develop a RHD Tundra, there have been rumours of that for a while. They copped crap for only supplying the 200 series in GXL guise and now have a base spec version, same with the dual cab 70 series. Everyone says Australia is a blip on the radar for Toyota but they obviously do care what happens down here. |
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14-07-2012, 12:10 PM | #18 | |||
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14-07-2012, 12:28 PM | #19 | ||
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Living in Tamworth, you see quite a few of these...
Farmers love them, poeple love them go out hunting in...see some done up as tradies utes for mines, rail work etc...
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14-07-2012, 02:43 PM | #20 | |||
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14-07-2012, 03:37 PM | #21 | ||
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Ford should import the F-150 in CKD kits and fit it with the Lion 3.6 V8 diesel
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14-07-2012, 03:42 PM | #22 | ||
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I have a 76 series wagon and it's brilliant, will be a sad day when the 70 series is no longer available as there's nothing else out there as suited for tough work. The Patrol utes would be if they had a better motor and put together better. The IFS utes are nice but just can't hack the punishment.
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14-07-2012, 03:47 PM | #23 | ||
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Is production stopping only because of the miners? That still leaves out around 40% of other potential buyers.... are there other forces stopping the sale of the 70 series??
I did my overland tour of Egypt in a 70 series troopy and it did the job well.
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14-07-2012, 03:56 PM | #24 | ||
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Would be nice to see an Australian company, like FoA would consult mining firms, and develop a locally designed vehicle to fill the void. I read an article saying they're having to import LHD Dodge Rams, as nothing on the market is suitable.
Surely something based off a Falcon ute, with heavier duty diff, diesel engine would take advantage of this boom, before the post-boom bust... |
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14-07-2012, 04:02 PM | #25 | |||
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Falcon ute isn't anywhere near a replacement for 70 series tojo... I don't think anything is when you start talking serious actual on shift mine vehicles..
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14-07-2012, 05:01 PM | #27 | ||
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There is a push by FoA with Ranger into the mines, but theyre gettin a bit of a push back because of the Tojo reputation and a rusted on Toyota fleet, something I think Toyota is resting on its past reputation as the new stuff isnt quite as `unbreakable` as it used to be. Theyre doing alot of 4.5 V8 rebuilds for oil consumption,the old D4D(1KZ?) likes head gaskets,if it bombs a turbo in anger bye bye conrods..I did my apprenticeship on 60 series and 75 series cruisers they were the shiz, but the new ones are a little bit soy latte decaf if you ask me. The comment from a mate at Rio was`those Rangers wont last a week up here` I`m not so sure.....Ranger is a seriously sweet ute.
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14-07-2012, 05:09 PM | #28 | |||
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Yeah a unitary body vehicle won't stand up very well to the sort of abuse minesite work can dish up. Ford are better off using the T6 program vehicles to satisfy the mining niche use or assembling F-150's in CKD form.
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14-07-2012, 05:23 PM | #29 | ||
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If FoA were to reintroduce the 1965 f100 you could make it basic and tough too.
The 70 series Cruiser as with the 80's hi lux ( on which the HILux rep is built) are reliable and able to take abuse because the are underpowered basic units. Live axles front leaf springs. Steel dashboards. Bring them up to modern standards of performace comfort and saftey and the fall into the same difficulties all other manufacturers do. Offering a car in 2012 without ABS put this in the same class as an ACCO. Which is almost criminal. Do they have airbags? Why is this not an issue with the motoring press? I know people who own and love them and what they do is amazing but there time has come. Good riddance. Rant off .
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14-07-2012, 05:28 PM | #30 | |||
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I think the new generation of F-series, Silverado, Rams are the perfect step between the heavy duty 79 series type Landcruisers and the prissy Thai made Hiluxes,Rangers etc. At least the American pickups are built for work, with payloads and towing ability to rival some Hino trucks. The bonus is they have the comfort and room that the Landcruiser ute could only dream of. |
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