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Old 30-05-2013, 08:39 PM   #1
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Default VF Self Parking System Fails. Twice.

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The embargo on the VF Commodore has lifted, so that means we can republish this! The VF's self parking system failing to spot a parking space. Twice. In front of a room full of journalists at its national launch. Fail.
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Old 30-05-2013, 08:39 PM   #2
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Default Re: VF Self Parking System Fails. Twice.

Saw it the other day...quite embarrassing.
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Old 30-05-2013, 08:44 PM   #3
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Default Re: VF Self Parking System Fails. Twice.

read the comments ... the journo wasn't using it correctly
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Old 30-05-2013, 08:48 PM   #4
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http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257B7B0017D52C

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Under test conditions, the parking sensors failed three times to pick a right-sized gap 90-degree gap, although on the fourth attempt it worked as expected in only three moves.
BTW, where, (besides comments on Facebook) does it officially state it was the Journo's error?
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Old 30-05-2013, 08:48 PM   #5
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Default Re: VF Self Parking System Fails. Twice.

It can't be as bad as when Volvo showing off one of their gadgets had their car drive right into the back of a truck.
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Old 30-05-2013, 09:39 PM   #6
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Maybe they should of put the indicator on
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Old 30-05-2013, 10:17 PM   #7
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Default Re: VF Self Parking System Fails. Twice.

You mean to tell me that a brand new model actually has a minor issue?

Good lord. Shut the factory.
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Old 30-05-2013, 10:29 PM   #8
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Default Re: VF Self Parking System Fails. Twice.

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No offence, but who on here REALLY cares?
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Old 30-05-2013, 10:32 PM   #9
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Default Re: VF Self Parking System Fails. Twice.

Won't matter. It's a Holden, this would be shrugged off in no time. Holdens are Wheels Mag's favourite car.
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Old 31-05-2013, 05:27 AM   #10
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Default Re: VF Self Parking System Fails. Twice.

Apart from the parking fail I think for once Holdens Marketing has cocked up a bit. The video shot from the rear of the 2 wagons and a ute should be taken from the front. From the back the VFs are the same as the VEs. Or use sedans.
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Old 31-05-2013, 07:18 AM   #11
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Default Re: VF Self Parking System Fails. Twice.

Mirrors don't work anymore?

Self park is fail whether it works or not.
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Old 31-05-2013, 07:36 AM   #12
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Default Re: VF Self Parking System Fails. Twice.

Read this from one of the Facebook comments, laughed my head off.

"Lemons don't park. They fall straight to the ground."

Self parking may not be for my generation, but my grandkids will probably be wondering how people parallel parked without it.
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Old 31-05-2013, 07:43 AM   #13
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In the Ford system it doesn't look for spaces unless the indicator is on. I would dare say that the Holden system is no different.
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Old 31-05-2013, 09:31 AM   #14
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I don't like any new technology :-)
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Old 31-05-2013, 11:51 AM   #15
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In the Ford system it doesn't look for spaces unless the indicator is on. I would dare say that the Holden system is no different.
Has this changed? The early (Euro built) Focus would ONLY look on the left side by default (with or without blinker). The right blinker had to be used in order for it to look on the right side of the car.
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Old 31-05-2013, 01:05 PM   #16
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Default Re: VF Self Parking System Fails. Twice.

Karl S. demo'd the new VF on the Today Show this morning. Sitting in the car with none other than News Ltd journo Joshua Dowling. They were really talking up the self parking feature. Karl even managed to park it next to his own HSV in the channel nine carpark. Was a great piece of PR for Holden.
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Old 31-05-2013, 03:33 PM   #17
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Those "fuel efficient tyres" on the Evoke are a more concern, the grip is just not there
and I can see traditional Omega buyers coming a gutsa in the wet....
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Old 31-05-2013, 04:31 PM   #18
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Self parking may not be for my generation, but my grandkids will probably be wondering how people parallel parked without it.
And their Parents.. and most of the other people they know ! (unfortunately )
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Has this changed? The early (Euro built) Focus would ONLY look on the left side by default (with or without blinker). The right blinker had to be used in order for it to look on the right side of the car.
Why would you need a self parking system to look on the right hand side?
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i wonder if self parking will be ok in your driving licence test ? lol
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i wonder if self parking will be ok in your driving licence test ? lol
Most likely be a special condition, like wearing glasses

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Old 31-05-2013, 06:59 PM   #22
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Talk about a bad time for it to not work but hopefully just an isolated issue. As far as I'm concerned it wouldn't bother me in the least bit as I wouldn't use it because I don't reverse park.
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Old 31-05-2013, 08:21 PM   #23
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With all of this new tech slammed into the VF surely this is just the beginning of tech related guinea pig issues.
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Default Re: VF Self Parking System Fails. Twice.

Other journos have had the same problems. The system only works sometimes.

But then again what can you expect from GM tech? Just look at all the electrical problems VE had.
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Talk about a bad time for it to not work but hopefully just an isolated issue. As far as I'm concerned it wouldn't bother me in the least bit as I wouldn't use it because I don't reverse park.
I almost exclusively rear park, much better turning circle going backwards.
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Why would you need a self parking system to look on the right hand side?
On a one-way street.
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Ha ha Fall

The more gadgets the more things to go wrong.

Holden drivers aren't the smartest so they need all the help they can get this is why the VF has all these unnecessary gadgets lol

Wonder if the light fails in the mirror on the change lane warning system if there is going to be an increase in accidents lol
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regardless of wether the feature is useful or not, holden has included it as part of the car and if im paying 40 grand or more for a car i expect it to work properly.
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Its going to be a sad day in a few decades time when nobody actually knows how to park a car. Its not like its even hard to do.
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You mean to tell me that a brand new model actually has a minor issue?

Good lord. Shut the factory.
Why be so melodramatic? You mean to tell me that people shouldn't discuss this on an automotive forum?

Good lord. Shut Fordforums.
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