Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-12-2013, 09:36 PM   #1
karj
XY Falcon
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 413
Default Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Breaking News: Senior Government Ministers believe Holden will cease manufacturing in Australia by 2017.

Holden has made the decision to pull out of Australia as early as 2016, according to senior Government ministers.

The ABC has been told the announcement was supposed to be made this week but has been put off until early next year.

Holden says its discussions with the Government are continuing, and it does not respond to speculation.

Despite several of his colleagues believing Holden is leaving, Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane says that is not his understanding.

The Federal Opposition has been warning Holden would make the decision before Christmas if the Government did not announce an assistance package for the industry before then.

The Government has said it would wait for the findings of a Productivity Commission inquiry, due in March.

__________________
_________________
1971 XY Falcon 500

Last edited by karj; 05-12-2013 at 09:46 PM.
karj is offline  
Old 05-12-2013, 09:47 PM   #2
MethodX
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
MethodX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,198
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Bye any aus patriotism then
MethodX is offline  
Old 05-12-2013, 09:49 PM   #3
zipping
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
zipping's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: melbourne
Posts: 4,669
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Bugger but always knew it was coming once Ford got the ball rolling still very sad for the workers involved and the associated suppliers and their employee's
zipping is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 05-12-2013, 09:52 PM   #4
Focused
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 446
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Terrible news if true. No surprise but unfortunate for everyone involved.
I wonder if this means Toyota will take off around the same time?
Focused is offline  
Old 05-12-2013, 09:54 PM   #5
Spammy
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,094
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

I heard the same story last week from somebody who would know.
Spammy is offline  
Old 05-12-2013, 09:55 PM   #6
Wretched
Render unto Caesar
 
Wretched's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ::1
Posts: 4,236
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Bugger...hopefully with Ford and Holden publicly announcing these shutdowns it will make the whole nation wake up and smell the reality that has dawned upon us all.
__________________
"Aliens might be surprised to learn that in a cosmos with limitless starlight, humans kill for energy sources buried in sand." - Neil deGrasse Tyson
Wretched is offline  
2 users like this post:
Old 05-12-2013, 09:59 PM   #7
flooded one
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 1,573
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

you all know my opinion on that bloody company but I do feel bad for the hard working employees that will loose there jobs. I really hope these people find employment. wether or not you hate Holden. its the workers you must feel sorry for.
flooded one is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 05-12-2013, 10:02 PM   #8
ozpacman
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Trinity Beach FNQ
Posts: 807
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

The component manufacturers will no longer have a viable business model once Holden packs up so that would certainly leave Toyota in a difficult situation. If this latest news is correct, and I'd suspect it's pretty close to the mark, then Toyota will no doubt leave our shores as well.

I really don't think most people will be taken by surprise with this news though. The writing's certainly been on the wall for a good while when you think about it. It's pretty scary when you think how many industries and large manufacturers have closed down in the last 20 years. Very sad indeed.

Russ.
ozpacman is offline  
2 users like this post:
Old 05-12-2013, 10:02 PM   #9
The Stylist
Automotive Designer
 
The Stylist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 751
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Gosh I feel sorry for the poor workers and component suppliers if this is confirmed...
The Stylist is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 05-12-2013, 10:05 PM   #10
Joe5619
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,653
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

I'm sick to death of this crap. This is NOT official!! Ministers of the government should know better. Lets all wait until Holden tell us FFS!!
Joe5619 is offline  
9 users like this post:
Old 05-12-2013, 10:06 PM   #11
LOWAU
___________
 
LOWAU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 611
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

It's a shame. Toyota won't be too far behind.

Also what happens when our dollar drops are we are paying 10-20% more for imported cars?
LOWAU is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 05-12-2013, 10:09 PM   #12
jpblue1000
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
jpblue1000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Adelaide
Posts: 2,252
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOWAU;4****68
It's a shame. Toyota won't be too far behind.

Also what happens when our dollar drops are we are paying 10-20% more for imported cars?
we will pay 10 -20 % more for cars! still cheap.
jpblue1000 is offline  
Old 05-12-2013, 10:11 PM   #13
P6LTD351
Blue Blood
 
P6LTD351's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SA
Posts: 1,507
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Holden obviously didn't want to announce it just before Xmas.

Feel sorry for the workers.

I don't know about the rest of Australia but in Adelaide, Holden is a daily news topic - especially on talk back radio.

It will not be a surprise and to be honest, Adelaideans have already conceded that they will close, so it won't be a shock at all.
__________________
The Fleet
1999 AU XR8 4sp adaptive shift, Black, Momo T-bar and S/wheel, Bodykit, 17" wheels, Sunroof - 180Ks - THE DAILY
1995 EF XR8 Manual Heritage Green, Factory Bodykit and FTRs - 126Ks
1986 XF Fairmont Ghia 4.1L EFI Regency Red, trip computer, venetians - 163Ks
1979 P6 LTD 351, Goldust - 185Ks
1989 Mazda MX5, Red 1.6L, 5sp manual - 102Ks
P6LTD351 is offline  
3 users like this post:
Old 05-12-2013, 10:12 PM   #14
ryeman
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Central Vic
Posts: 3,724
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe5619;4****66
I'm sick to death of this crap. This is NOT official!! Ministers of the government should know better. Lets all wait until Holden tell us FFS!!
It's part of the softening up process, if it wasn't true Holden wouldn't let this run.
__________________
Wherenoshockjocksfly

Facts or the twitterverse, your choice!

M3SR+ .......MG ZS EV
ryeman is offline  
Old 05-12-2013, 10:13 PM   #15
Spammy
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,094
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOWAU;4****68
It's a shame. Toyota won't be too far behind.

Also what happens when our dollar drops are we are paying 10-20% more for imported cars?

Importers will cut their margin to some extent. Don't forget 88% of cars sold are imported.
Spammy is offline  
Old 05-12-2013, 10:15 PM   #16
P6LTD351
Blue Blood
 
P6LTD351's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SA
Posts: 1,507
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe5619;4****66
I'm sick to death of this crap. This is NOT official!! Ministers of the government should know better. Lets all wait until Holden tell us FFS!!
Granted it is not official. But if you think that the Minister will ad hoc tell a news reporter that Holden are closing, then you have got another thing coming.

These things get announced strategically. Let the workers enjoy their Xmas.

But please, this is a forum, and it's topics like this that are made to be discussed in a forum. We are not an official site, so we don't have to tow the official party or company line.
__________________
The Fleet
1999 AU XR8 4sp adaptive shift, Black, Momo T-bar and S/wheel, Bodykit, 17" wheels, Sunroof - 180Ks - THE DAILY
1995 EF XR8 Manual Heritage Green, Factory Bodykit and FTRs - 126Ks
1986 XF Fairmont Ghia 4.1L EFI Regency Red, trip computer, venetians - 163Ks
1979 P6 LTD 351, Goldust - 185Ks
1989 Mazda MX5, Red 1.6L, 5sp manual - 102Ks
P6LTD351 is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 05-12-2013, 10:25 PM   #17
Syndrome
DJT 45 and 47 POTUS
 
Syndrome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 7,373
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Not surprised at all. Once Ford went the others were bound to follow. With the next generation Camry not due until 2016 or 2017, I expect Toyota will also pull the pin on their local production activities.
Syndrome is offline  
Old 05-12-2013, 10:26 PM   #18
Road_Warrior
Pity the fool
 
Road_Warrior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wait Awhile
Posts: 8,997
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wretched;4****47
Bugger...hopefully with Ford and Holden publicly announcing these shutdowns it will make the whole nation wake up and smell the reality that has dawned upon us all.
Too late for that. The wake up call was in 2008.
__________________
Fords I own or have owned:

1970 XW Falcon GT replica | 1970 XW Falcon | 1971 XY Fairmont | 1973 ZG Fairlane | 1986 XF Falcon panel van | 1987 XFII Falcon S-Pack | 1988 XF Falcon GLS ute | 1993 EBII Fairmont V8 | 1996 XG Falcon ute | 2000 AU Falcon wagon | 2004 BA Falcon XT | 2012 SZ Territory Titanium AWD

Proud to buy Australian and support Ford Australia through thick and thin
Road_Warrior is offline  
6 users like this post:
Old 05-12-2013, 10:29 PM   #19
mif73
CNC fixer guy
 
mif73's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Melbourne Vic
Posts: 609
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by Road_Warrior View Post
Too late for that. The wake up call was in 2008.
Yep. Race on Sunday, buy a Kia on Monday...
__________________
Weekend Toy: S1 AU Fairlane V8 with LTD bits, Tickford 17" wheels, front and rear chin spoilers, series 2 front brake conversion with Super pro bushes, Pacemaker headers, rear muffler removed, Kings/Pedders lowered suspension, Koni adj rears, painted headlight bezels, HR 2300kg hitch, 2 stage shift kit, trans cooler, reverse cam and media player.

Wife unit's : 2010 update FG XR6, reverse cam, HR 2300kg Hitch, German Maestro speakers, parcel shelf sub, trimmed mudflaps, batman stickers.
mif73 is offline  
3 users like this post:
Old 05-12-2013, 10:31 PM   #20
fte50
T3FTE -099. OnTemp Loan
 
fte50's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Down Under
Posts: 1,506
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

No point beating back & forth, best just wait for the official announcement in due course.
Hopefully some yrs away.
__________________

Warning - This users posts are classified (G).

G (General) – Contains material intended for general viewing. The content is very mild in impact.
IT IS STRONGLY ADVISED SENSITIVE ADULTS VIEW IN THE COMPANY OF CHILDREN
fte50 is offline  
2 users like this post:
Old 05-12-2013, 10:33 PM   #21
AdamL
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
AdamL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Victoria
Posts: 1,224
Default

Any of the national newspapers would be proud of this misleading thread title. Lol.

It's just all the same speculation that's been occurring since Ford dropped the axe.
AdamL is offline  
Old 05-12-2013, 10:34 PM   #22
Syndrome
DJT 45 and 47 POTUS
 
Syndrome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 7,373
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Looks like Paul Keating's comments in the 1980s about Australia becoming a banana republic is about to come true.
Syndrome is offline  
10 users like this post:
Old 05-12-2013, 10:37 PM   #23
nstg8a
3..2..1..
 
nstg8a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Bellbird park
Posts: 7,218
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamL View Post
Any of the national newspapers would be proud of this misleading thread title. Lol.

It's just all the same speculation that's been occurring since Ford dropped the axe.
This.... Someone needs to edit the title to better reflect the fact that's it based on he said she said 3rd person Chinese whispers....

Obviously we all know its inevitable, but the title makes out like its official.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by pottery beige View Post
Happy mcgadget meal orphan mcboofhead
nstg8a is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 05-12-2013, 10:38 PM   #24
P6LTD351
Blue Blood
 
P6LTD351's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: SA
Posts: 1,507
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by fte50 View Post
No point beating back & forth, best just wait for the official announcement in due course.
Hopefully some yrs away.
My friend is in a middle management position at Holden.

The closure may be 'years away'...the announcement is around the corner.
__________________
The Fleet
1999 AU XR8 4sp adaptive shift, Black, Momo T-bar and S/wheel, Bodykit, 17" wheels, Sunroof - 180Ks - THE DAILY
1995 EF XR8 Manual Heritage Green, Factory Bodykit and FTRs - 126Ks
1986 XF Fairmont Ghia 4.1L EFI Regency Red, trip computer, venetians - 163Ks
1979 P6 LTD 351, Goldust - 185Ks
1989 Mazda MX5, Red 1.6L, 5sp manual - 102Ks
P6LTD351 is offline  
Old 05-12-2013, 10:50 PM   #25
galaxy xr8
Giddy up.
 
galaxy xr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Kramerica Industries.
Posts: 15,639
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Co incidental that this was made more so public less then an hr away from Ford's official Mustang reveal ?.

Either taking some lime light or a good time to speculate to take the heat of yourself, I wouldn't be surprised if Holden were behind this not the media.
galaxy xr8 is offline  
Old 05-12-2013, 10:51 PM   #26
Wretched
Render unto Caesar
 
Wretched's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ::1
Posts: 4,236
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by galaxy xr8 View Post
Co incidental that this was made more so public less then an hr away from Ford's official Mustang reveal ?.

Either taking some lime light or a good time to speculate to take the heat of yourself, I wouldn't be surprised if Holden were behind this not the media.
I was thinking the same, kind of like when Ford announced their shutdown when the VF was being released.
__________________
"Aliens might be surprised to learn that in a cosmos with limitless starlight, humans kill for energy sources buried in sand." - Neil deGrasse Tyson
Wretched is offline  
This user likes this post:
Old 05-12-2013, 10:57 PM   #27
Elks
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Elks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 4,523
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Quote:
Originally Posted by P6LTD351 View Post
My friend is in a middle management position at Holden.

The closure may be 'years away'...the announcement is around the corner.
Not that far. Last month they laid off some engineers as they was no longer a 2017 Commodore.

Sadly they are gone. So what do we make in this county. ???
__________________
Oooh baby living in Miami....
Elks is offline  
Old 05-12-2013, 11:00 PM   #28
BroadyFord
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 470
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

Interesting.

Quote:
Holden may quit Australia in 2016: report

http://www.theage.com.au/national/ho...205-2yu8i.html

Senior federal ministers believe Holden will cease production in Australia as early as 2016, it has been reported.
Holden says it does not respond to speculation and discussions with the government are continuing.
The ABC said it had been told the announcement of the pull-out was supposed to be made this week but had been put off until the new year.
"Senior government ministers believe Holden has made a decision to cease production in Australia," the ABC said.
Advertisement
"It's understood Holden will close its doors as early as 2016."
A spokeswoman for Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane has denied the reports Holden is planning to pull out of Australia by 2016.
Kylie Barron said Mr Macfarlane had met with Holden on Thursday and talks were continuing as they had been.''They haven't made a decision about their future in Australia,'' Ms Barron told AAP.
''There is no change.''

Senior federal ministers reportedly believe Holden will cease production in Australia as early as 2016.
Holden says it doesn’t respond to speculation, and discussions with the government are continuing.
The ABC says the announcement of the pull-out was supposed to be made this week but has been put off until the new year.
BroadyFord is offline  
Old 05-12-2013, 11:01 PM   #29
BroadyFord
Regular Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 470
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

So I guess my 3-4 week time frame of a closure announcement was correct.

Watch out Toyota! Dowling has you in his sights next!
BroadyFord is offline  
4 users like this post:
Old 05-12-2013, 11:05 PM   #30
Trump
bitch lasagne
 
Trump's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Sonova Beach
Posts: 15,110
Default Re: Breaking News: Holden to cease manufacturing in Australia in 2017

This is not good news at all. Most of us on here knew it was inevitable that Holden would shut the doors on its manufacturing operations here, but 2016...?

I really feel for the thousands that will be given the **** directly (and the tens of thousands indirectly through component suppliers).
Trump is offline  
3 users like this post:
Closed Thread


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 07:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL