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Old 04-02-2015, 03:34 PM   #1
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Default Falcon sales January

http://www.caradvice.com.au/334136/f...lates-history/

Wow! 381 sales?? expected to jump maybe a little!!!
what's going on? are they aiming for the symbolic 351!!!!
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:38 PM   #2
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They don't help themselves when all the imports plus the Territory were available at 2.9% finance, yet the Falcon it was only on FG 2.
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That's cause they are all buying Rangers

Where is the Ranger Front Page News instead doom and gloom for Falcon

The Ranger 4×4 remains the shining light. Its sales spiked 18.2 per cent last month to 1470, trailing the once-untouchable Toyota HiLux 4×4 by fewer than 180 units.

All of the Blue Oval’s locally made vehicles suffered in January, with the Falcon Ute falling even further, down 31.2 per cent to just 163 units, and the Territory slipping 6.2 per cent to 639.

Fiesta (579, down 39.9 per cent), Focus (1158, down 44.2 per cent) and Kuga (282, down 43.1 per cent)
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:47 PM   #4
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Default Re: Falcon sales January

how long was the factory shut down in Dec/Jan?
That's not to say sales would be 1000+ but I would have thought the shutdown would impact them to a point, may be they'd be selling 500 or so?
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how long was the factory shut down in Dec/Jan?
That's not to say sales would be 1000+ but I would have thought the shutdown would impact them to a point, may be they'd be selling 500 or so?
There was 7 days production in Jan or about 240 sedans.
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Old 04-02-2015, 04:00 PM   #6
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I think Ford are going to call time a lot earlier than Oct 2016.
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The Fiesta, Focus and Kuga still aren’t having the effect on their respective segments like they really should be, this need’s to be looked into.
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Can't wait for the day that the Ranger knocks off the Hilux.........
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its disappointing to see the range where it is.

Without Falcon, Territory and Falcon ute they will struggle to get into the top 10, which is a better reflection of how poorly the company is ran (not necessarily the product).
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its disappointing to see the range where it is.

Without Falcon, Territory and Falcon ute they will struggle to get into the top 10, which is a better reflection of how poorly the company is ran (not necessarily the product).
No, Ford will always be in the top 10. Sales of their local products in January was only 1183, or 22% of their total of 5357. If you take local products out, their sales total would be 4174, or 8th place (down from 5th).
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Wow! 381 sales?? expected to jump maybe a little!!!
what's going on? are they aiming for the symbolic 351!!!!
Not long ago I was shouted down for saying this; advertising is important to higher sales.

I have not seen or heard one add for the Falcon. How many others have not? We know about the Falcon because we're fanatics, but 95% of the population are not.
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They are winding it down for the closure next year. They wont advertise it again
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Our fleet guys are now buying Ranger in lieu of Falcon Ute. With the death knell approaching it's forced the shift. Well actually also in lieu of Hilux. It's taken time but Ranger is getting a nod.
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Old 04-02-2015, 04:58 PM   #14
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Default Re: Falcon sales January

I note the article mentions Oct and Nov 2014 sales figures but nothing for Dec 14. I am interested in the Dec 14 figures because that's when I took delivery of my car (on 24 Dec 14). I know it's a little off topic but has anyone seen the sales December 204 figures for Ford. I suspect 2014 plated FG X falcons would only have been very limited in numbers especially the XR8s builds.

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Old 04-02-2015, 05:18 PM   #15
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I find it disturbing that a few FG-X are sitting idle in a local yard I've been past many times....I can only assume as they look fabulous people just don't know they exist AND are at pretty darned aggressive pricing to boot.
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Old 04-02-2015, 05:24 PM   #16
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I wonder how many where xr8 ??
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They need to advertise a lot better if they want to sell more cars, the only Ford i see advertised regulary is the Ranger, and its the best selling Ford, go figure
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They are winding it down for the closure next year. They wont advertise it again
Again?? When did they advertise it? Did I miss the one ad they ran once?
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Old 04-02-2015, 06:15 PM   #19
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Why would you bother advertising a vehicle that sells 75% to fleets? That means that 75% of potential customers are going to ignore the ad. Even if by some miracle, a Falcon TV ad managed to double private sales, you're talking an extra 150 sales per month, which would bring monthly sales up from say 600 to 750. That's insignificant. Also remember that Falcon is being made at a fixed rate on the production line. You can't increase sales too much, because then production won't be able to keep up with demand.
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they dont want big sales from the locals imo, if the sales was to exceed x amount of units they would probably have to put more people on.......... my guess is they want to keep a steady manageable flow with minimum staff until stumps and then close the doors with as little fuss as possible..
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Here's a Ford ad for all of you complainers out there:



I see this ugly chick all the time.
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Why then if Territory is coming off the same assembly line has there been significant advertising for Territory?

Anyone with inside knowledge?

January was what 380 odd for Falcon sedan 163 I think for Ute and 6-700 for Territory.

Have they set up the production mix to minimise Falcon and maximise Territory -is that why there is no interest Falcon-they can sell 400 or so sedans to rental companies and the like?
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Why then if Territory is coming off the same assembly line has there been significant advertising for Territory?

Anyone with inside knowledge?

January was what 380 odd for Falcon sedan 163 I think for Ute and 6-700 for Territory.

Have they set up the production mix to minimise Falcon and maximise Territory -is that why there is no interest Falcon-they can sell 400 or so sedans to rental companies and the like?
My guess is that Territory is still in a relevant segment and when its gone it will be replaced by something else so would make sense to keep the sales ticking over. Falcon on the other hand is finished and wont be replaced. Ford are trying to put people into other cars in their range.
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Why then if Territory is coming off the same assembly line has there been significant advertising for Territory?

Anyone with inside knowledge?

January was what 380 odd for Falcon sedan 163 I think for Ute and 6-700 for Territory.

Have they set up the production mix to minimise Falcon and maximise Territory -is that why there is no interest Falcon-they can sell 400 or so sedans to rental companies and the like?
SUV market is growing , large sedan market is trending down for all 3 companies.
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Here's a Ford ad for all of you complainers out there:

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I see this ugly chick all the time.
She looks like shes gunna steal my lollies, through my ipad..
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this ugly chick .
so its not just me then.


as for the topic, i can't believe these threads still get made every month, with people lamenting falcon sales.

time to move on.
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Our fleet guys are now buying Ranger in lieu of Falcon Ute. With the death knell approaching it's forced the shift. Well actually also in lieu of Hilux. It's taken time but Ranger is getting a nod.
The Company I work for has just placed an order for 2 rangers they were looking at Flacon Utes but thought the ranger was a better vehicle for heavy loads
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The Company I work for has just placed an order for 2 rangers they were looking at Flacon Utes but thought the ranger was a better vehicle for heavy loads
and they are right.
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and they are right.
hence why I gave them the info about towing on the ranger the guys can tow up to about 2 tonne plus what they have in the tray
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The management at Ford must be so peeved with this result.
They sold 381 more Falcons than they wanted.
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