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17-05-2017, 08:14 PM | #1 | ||
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http://performancedrive.com.au/kia-w...r-report-1720/
Looks like HSV customers could have somewhere to go -KSV? 😂 Hope it uses the Tau V8 but in all likeliness tuned turbo V6 with more herbs and bi-modal exhaust. Also would it kill them to do a manual? |
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18-05-2017, 10:22 AM | #2 | ||
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Australian dealers have already put 30 orders for Stinger GT's and they haven't even announced the pricing.
https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-new...bout-40k-54374 They anticipate there will be a shortage on supply when its initially released which will keep its sales down to 200-300 a month.
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18-05-2017, 04:17 PM | #4 | ||
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I really like the look of it. With a V8 it would be pretty good.
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18-05-2017, 04:42 PM | #5 | ||
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It's going to be hard to beat with the unlimited K's 7yr warranty.
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19-05-2017, 11:13 AM | #6 | ||
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Shamelessly thrashing the car knowing it's covered by 7 years warranty is definitely something. Could never do that in a Falcon as Ford don't stand by their product and usually blame the operator or find an excuse 'they all do that'.
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19-05-2017, 11:19 AM | #7 | ||
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Very nice looking rig, if I was looking for 4 door performance it would be near or at the top of the list that's for sure.....
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19-05-2017, 08:32 PM | #8 | |||
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I'm seething over it. I'm one of Fords most loyal supporters. I've been patient and quite forgiving. That's all over, now I'm absolutely livid. On the Stinger, looks like a cool car to fill the void left in the absence of a Ford and Holden offering. I don't reckon I'd buy one, but i don't really know why- probably badge snobbery? That said, I wouldn't buy a Merc or BMW either. I like the understated elitism offered by our local manufacturers, but it's all in the past and I'm going to have to suck it up and work out what the hell is next. I have been wondering what would be next.... I honestly have no idea. Second hand Falcons I reckon.
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19-05-2017, 11:35 PM | #9 | ||
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Love it
Glad to see it doesn't resemble the Toyota 86 Sent from ASUS ZE551ML ^_^ using Tapatalk
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20-05-2017, 09:17 AM | #10 | |||
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Ford have had 14 years of people tuning and modding and thrashing their performance cars and then bringing them in for warranty repairs.... Doesn't excuse some of the horror stories on innocents but it is what is was. This will be new territory for Kia in selling cars to potential enthusiasts who will probably want to lower them , tune them , adjust the boost , mod the exhaust etc etc... Only a matter of time before KIA borrows the technical manual from Ford and starts diagnosing their warranty issues as " sorry mate , they all do that.....". Won't take long I reckon before Kia's 7 year warranty on these sorts of cars is just lip service.
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21-05-2017, 07:52 PM | #11 | |||
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22-05-2017, 01:26 AM | #12 | |||
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22-05-2017, 08:42 AM | #13 | |||
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22-05-2017, 09:05 AM | #14 | ||
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22-05-2017, 06:14 PM | #15 | |||
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Maybe try a Jag? It has RWD, the promise of an inline 6 ingenium turbo on the horizon, and a ride/handling reputation... just like Falcon. Going to cost a lot more for same spec (like the BMW, Merc as well) once the local industry is gone. Edit: and +1 for 'understated elitism', that's a very good term for describing what the top-of-line locals represented throughout the country for a very long time.
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22-05-2017, 10:35 PM | #16 | ||
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Dunno, to me buying a Ford/GM is equivalent to shopping at K-Mart or Target, ok products at competitive prices. Buying a new Kia or Hyundai would be like going to the Reject Shop or $2 Shop, it just don't feel right.
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23-05-2017, 12:56 AM | #17 | ||
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I used to think like that too but when you go out and compare them side by side you will be surprised. We recently bought a near new Kia, it just felt so much better quality inside than the Mitsubishi and Nissan that were on our short list. They have really upped their game lately.
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23-05-2017, 05:42 AM | #18 | |||
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23-05-2017, 06:25 AM | #19 | |||
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23-05-2017, 11:44 PM | #20 | ||
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2014 Kia Rondo. 7 seater, more of a large hatch than an SUV or people mover. Got the SLi version with leather seats, dual zone AC etc. Has a 6 speed auto not CVT, handles OK and soaks up the bumps pretty well. Pretty sluggish though, really need to push it hard to get it moving but more than enough ooomph for the missus. No squeaks, rattles etc, just feels tight and quiet.
We have 3 kids so the middle row seating was a major consideration for us. The middle row seats are actually 3 separate seats, they are able to recline/slide individually which was a selling point for us as an adult can easily fit between the child seats on either side. Next time you check out an Outlander, X-Trail, Pajero Sport etc check out the middle row seat, especially the middle seat and how comfortable it is and how far apart the seat belt clips are - my missus bum didn't fit comfortably between them and she is a small lady. Most of the others seem designed for 2 rear passengers where the middle seat comfort is replaced with cup holders and arm rests. Similar to this one: https://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/d...4532604/?Cr=61 Last edited by jstanovic; 23-05-2017 at 11:50 PM. |
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25-05-2017, 12:19 PM | #21 | ||
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Thought this was a Ford Forum
Symptomatic of why Ford pulled out of Australia I wouldn't even consider anything other than a Ford
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25-05-2017, 12:27 PM | #22 | |||
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Rubbish, Ford didn't close manufacturing here because a few people were discussing/buying a KIA (of which came about years after Ford announced, let alone discussed their closure). You may consider only Fords as many do and are entitled to, but that doesn't mean others can't look at different makes. I cannot speak for everyone else here, but whilst I am a Ford fan, that doesn't mean i will blindly go and buy a brand new Ford just because of the badge. Buying a car for many is a large investment so they need to make sure it ticks most of the boxes. If the KIA does that, why is it such a problem?
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25-05-2017, 01:08 PM | #23 | |||
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25-05-2017, 01:21 PM | #24 | ||
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Maybe you should've considered buying a new one to help keep them producing cars in Australia.
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25-05-2017, 02:31 PM | #25 | |||
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George? Given that you cannot Buy a "new" locally produced Ford anymore do you not see the relevance of this car? Ford didn't pull out of Australia because of this particular Kia, that ship has sailed. but be assured its sure going to attract buyers formerly in the market for an XR6 etc.
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25-05-2017, 11:44 PM | #26 | |||
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The fact that Ford Falcons could and still can be bought secondhand in excellent condition is testament to the great car that the Falcon was and still is, doubt very much if the same will ever be the case with respect to the Kia's, Hyundai's and the like in the years to come, they will never be the "icon" the Falcon is. Call me illogical, old fashioned, whatever, but they are not what I call a "real car", they are an entertainment centre on wheels, built to go on the scrap heap in short time. "Stinker" is right on Bluey-GT Would rather go overseas for a Ford any day, but would rather I didn't have to My 2007 Ghia will still be running around in another 10years and hopefully so will i
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26-05-2017, 02:50 AM | #27 | ||
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Nothing Ford made suited our family needs. Neither did anything from Hyundai, Holden, Toyota, Mitsubishi etc etc. Why would I buy a car that didn't suit my needs just because it has a Ford badge? Sounds ridiculous to me
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26-05-2017, 10:27 AM | #28 | ||
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Family needs are probably more cup holders than cc's, more mpg than miles in comfort, more gadgets than torque etc.
So an icon was sacrificed to a disposable plastic box full of cup holders with a turbo charged motor mower under the flimsy bonnet The Falcon was/is a real "family car" and has been for many years You will never see a video like this about the junk that is being produced by Kia, Hyundai and the like. http://www.carpoint.com.au/videos/20...imeline-104161 Maybe one day people will come to their senses and realise they have been conned out of the pleasure of driving a real car like the Falcon, but somehow I doubt it, we Falcon owners should consider ourselves very lucky, maybe one day if we keep talking about them they will return Very angry and sad all at the same time, end of rant
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26-05-2017, 11:30 AM | #29 | ||
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Is 510Nm not enough in a family sedan? Makes it feel "disposable" hey? lol. I have 1,025Nm right now, so I'm used to having a lot of torque, but 510 would be just fine.
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26-05-2017, 12:10 PM | #30 | ||
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Your Hilarious George. such hatred
I guess the KIA's wont be keeping the Trans Doctor is business..
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