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Old 23-03-2023, 08:02 AM   #1
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Default Camaro axed.

Must say this happened much earlier than anticipated but not surprised considering it’s lack of sales compared to Mustang and Challenger in the States.
What now for Supercars?

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Old 23-03-2023, 08:43 AM   #2
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Has been known for at least 18 months that I know of, hence the hate from GM fans that the “new Mustang looks more like Camaro”,blew up a storm in a tea cup last year. IMO, that sort of projection sour grapes tells me that new Mustang should pick plenty of ex Camaro buyers.
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Old 23-03-2023, 08:52 AM   #3
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Yep I know it was going to happen, but not in 9 months time. I think most people expected it probably late 2025 at the earliest.
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Old 23-03-2023, 08:57 AM   #4
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Default Re: Camaro axed.

It'll likely come back in a few years on another platform.
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I haven't read the above story, but wasn't there some talk (conformation?) that the Camaro would be replaced with a new EV platform? If that is the case, maybe this is just the end of the ICE Camaro?
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I haven't read the above story, but wasn't there some talk (conformation?) that the Camaro would be replaced with a new EV platform? If that is the case, maybe this is just the end of the ICE Camaro?
...so you think it's ICE iced, baby...only...
now I've ear wormed myself....
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They should just put all that gear into a Monaro / GTO shell. Would sell better I reckon.
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Out of curiosity, how has this genre of cars been selling across Asia and the Subcontinent? Are there any countries which have been significant markets for the three?
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They should just put all that gear into a Monaro / GTO shell. Would sell better I reckon.
Yanks didn't like the V2 Monaro / Pontiac GTO shape, not 'tough enough' for their tastes.
GM supplied the design idea for the Camaro, Holden did all the engineering and final design to the US requirements off the VE platform.
One of the main reasons the VE Monaro / Coupe 60 was canned.

Anyhow, no loss or tears for the Camaro as far as Australians are concerned.
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GM absolute clown show 🤡
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I really don't know why GM are even in supercars here. It's not to promote anything they sell, and soon, the car won't even exist at all. So what's the point?

To promote the Chev brand that only sells Silverado's and a couple hundred Corvettes a year?


The name might continue in future, but it won't be a coupe. Most likely an EV crossover like the Mach E.
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It'll likely come back in a few years on another platform.
Like a Mach E clone.
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Old 23-03-2023, 04:08 PM   #13
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Just go an buy a Corvette, what is the issue?
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Just go an buy a Corvette, what is the issue?
Price,

US prices for Corvette start at USD$64,000……that’s close to AUS$100,000 unconverted and undelivered.
GM once mentioned doing factory RHD Corvette but quietly dropped that idea, well they don’t advertise it..


How much is that new RHD Mustang…….lack of global sales killed the cumarro….
Say Cumarro to a yank and watch his head go red and nostrils flare…ka-merr-oh
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Old 23-03-2023, 05:53 PM   #15
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It’s Ok, T8 will win Supercars in a Camaro ( with zero manufacturers support from GM ) for the next 10 years.
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US prices for Corvette start at USD$64,000……that’s close to AUS$100,000 unconverted and undelivered.
GM once mentioned doing factory RHD Corvette but quietly dropped that idea, well they don’t advertise it..

Isn't the new Corvette a factory RHD?
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For once, Ford outsmarted GM with this one.

I have been highly critical of Ford for their continual stupidity regarding product decisions, namely a lack of export for products that would have been successful outside of the USA, Maverick and the Bronco twins in particular.

And yet, a decade ago, Ford knew they needed to expand outside of the US/Canada for Mustang to survive. And the result is they sell every single Mustang they make. From memory, Australia or the UK or the biggest export market for Mustang.

FCA/Stellantis or whatever they are calling themselves this week decided to stay local to the US with Challenger and Charger. GM did the same with Camaro. Both WOULD have been successful like the Mustang if exported. Instead, Dodge are making their pony cars electric, and GM are deserting the Camaro...............again.
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I will go and hang this on their board room wall.

There are other people living in the white areas who have the potential to buy products that we make.

The population of the white areas combined is a lot larger than the USA.

If you successfully sell to the white areas you have a better economy of scale and a larger profit.


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Camaro was touted as dead about 2 years ago.. i was suprised they even bothered with a camaro body for the supercars.. so now it will be the super stang series or will it just be mustang v camry ?
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It’s Ok, T8 will win Supercars in a Camaro ( with zero manufacturers support from GM ) for the next 10 years.
Who cares. Supercars is a rubbish racing formula anyway.
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Just listening to the news, getting the youngest ready for school, GM representative says they will support all racing teams in US, Australia, Canada etc until the end of 2024, then it's tough luck, you're on your own boys and girls.
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Did they ever end up selling any converted Camaros in Australia?
Thought they gave up because of low orders…..more money in trucks I guess.
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Did they ever end up selling any converted Camaros in Australia?
Thought they gave up because of low orders…..more money in trucks I guess.
They did, it was only for a short time though. I.think they started in late 2018 and finished in early 2020.
I think there was an update to the Camaro and they couldn't justify the work required to continue production
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I’ve seen one or two of the modern Camaros on the roads but they are rare. I see more of the early ones
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US prices for Corvette start at USD$64,000……that’s close to AUS$100,000 unconverted and undelivered.
GM once mentioned doing factory RHD Corvette but quietly dropped that idea, well they don’t advertise it..


How much is that new RHD Mustang…….lack of global sales killed the cumarro….
Say Cumarro to a yank and watch his head go red and nostrils flare…ka-merr-oh
we are talking Supercars here, not real cars, they just bolt/screw plastic panels on to make it look like a Corvette - did you read the opening post?
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Isn't the new Corvette a factory RHD?
2 overtook us on our way to Bathurst last year and they were right hand drive
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