F-150 Sales Halt

[DFB FGXR6]

Once again, another botched product launch from Ford.

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...acturing-fault

"Ford Australia has instructed its dealer network to stop the sale and delivery of the remanufactured Ford F-150, after several vehicles presented with a turbocharger fault related to the remanufacturing process."

“Out of an abundance of caution Ford Australia has placed a temporary hold on F-150s that are on their way to dealers or in dealer stock, after three re-manufactured vehicles presented with a turbo-charger related concern.”

This bit sounds familiar to me -

"CarExpert has spoken with three customers who have cancelled orders after continuous delivery delays, and being kept in the dark about what is going on with their vehicles."

I think a bunch or work experience teenagers could manage Ford Australia better than the twits currently in charge.

[au2000]

Brilliant start….

[Fordman1]

Well they’ve sacked a whole heap of local engineers, and will sprout about their engineering division here and this F150. If they are doing an EV Ranger I’ll be interested to see how that goes

[rare ss]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

Well they’ve sacked a whole heap of local engineers, and will sprout about their engineering division here and this F150. If they are doing an EV Ranger I’ll be interested to see how that goes

From what I hear the EV Ranger is waaay off..

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by rare ss

From what I hear the EV Ranger is waaay off..

Knowing Ford, they will unveil an EV Ranger 2 years before it goes on sale, take a heap of orders, then say nothing for 3 years and when it does arrive, Ford will end up with any one or more of the following excuses.................

- Lack of supply
- Lack of parts supply
- An incurable virus
- The factory burnt down or flooded
- Arguments with unionized labor delaying production
- Other markets want it more so we miss out
- Some sort of manufacturing fault that, despite many years of development and millions of dollars spent, wasn't picked up on prior to start of production.

And so on and so on...................

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Knowing Ford, they will unveil an EV Ranger 2 years before it goes on sale, take a heap of orders, then say nothing for 3 years and when it does arrive, Ford will end up with any one or more of the following excuses.................

- Lack of supply
- Lack of parts supply
- An incurable virus
- The factory burnt down or flooded
- Arguments with unionized labor delaying production
- Other markets want it more so we miss out
- Some sort of manufacturing fault that, despite many years of development and millions of dollars spent, wasn't picked up on prior to start of production.

And so on and so on...................

And if it is announced it won’t be financially viable, I’ve heard some stuff also

[Franco Cozzo]

Hopefully they did all the design work before they fired all the engineers working on it here

Australia probably won't even get it, because all our customers want diesel ones, see the sales figures show they only want diesel ones

[jpd80]

The word is that the EV Ranger will be based on F150 EV T3 platform

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2025...on-project-t3/

WHAT IT IS Ford's gearing up not only to bring a second-generation F-150 Lightning to market but also to expand its electric pickup lineup. The company's Project T3, which stands for Trust the Truck, is the rallying cry for the development teams that are working on Ford's future electrified pickups. Ford executives have confirmed that multiple vehicles are part of this project, will expand on the F-Series family, and are not of the heavy-duty ilk. We expect that along with a second-generation F-150 Lightning that Ford is also preparing to produce a smaller, likely Ranger-sized electric pickup as part of Project T3.

[jpd80]

Rather than start a new thread, I’ll post this here:

Chinese Ranger gets 2.3 EB, ZF 8-speed and coil spring rear

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...coils-in-china

Ford has taken the bold move of ditching its in-house 10-speed automatic transmission in favour of a ZF Sachs eight-speed automatic for the Chinese-market version of its Ranger ute.

Produced by Jiangling Motors Co, a 49 per cent Ford Motor Company-owned Chinese manufacturer, the next-generation Ford Ranger has recently been launched in China in a limited Wildtrak 1st Edition trim.

Limited to 800 units, this launch edition debuts with a host of features and technologies not yet seen on Australian-market Rangers.

The Ford Ranger Wildtrak produced in China (and to be exported to a number of Asian and Middle Eastern markets) is exclusively powered by a 2.3-litre turbocharged four-cylinder petrol engine, as seen locally in the Volkswagen Amarok and in US-built Rangers.

Instead of Ford’s in-house 10-speed automatic transmission, however, it uses ZF Sachs’ ZF8HP eight-speed automatic.

The petrol engine produces 190kW of power and 450Nm of torque, slightly down on the 222kW and 452Nm in the Amarok with the same engine.

This signals a big change for Ford given it now uses the 10-speed automatic transmission in a large number of its commercial utilities.

The eight-speed automatic transmission could also signal a move to the German gearbox for future iterations of a plug-in hybrid Ford Ranger given the 8HP transmission features plug-in hybrid compatibility.

In a video produced by a Chinese media outlet, some of the changes can be seen in action during a product demonstration.

In addition to the different gearbox, the Chinese-market Ranger also features front and rear differential locks, turn assist and ditches its leaf-spring suspension setup for a coil-sprung setup with Watts linkage, similar to the one seen in the Everest.

Other changes include an integrated winch, bead lock rims, front and rear steel bumpers, a modified interior and panoramic sunroof.

Pricing for the Chinese market Wildtrak 1st Edition kicks off from 268,000 yuan, which converts to around A$56,000.

It’s understood Ford’s Australian team worked on this vehicle out of Australia in joint collaboration with Jiangling Motors Co. We also understand that this vehicle unfortunately won’t be offered in Australia.

[ToryMikey]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Hopefully they did all the design work before they fired all the engineers working on it here

Australia probably won't even get it, because all our customers want diesel ones, see the sales figures show they only want diesel ones

We saw that with automatic cars around 10-15 years ago. Dealers only stocked autos, refused to do custom orders, so mainly autos sold, giving manufacturers the excuse to start axing manual versions!

[ToryMikey]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Rather than start a new thread, I’ll post this here:

Chinese Ranger gets 2.3 EB, ZF 8-speed and coil spring rear

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-new...coils-in-china

Nice to see the Occupied West Taiwan market Ranger gets the 1982 Falcon's rear suspension, rather than the 1960 Falcon's rear suspension that we get.

[Ford17]

Just watching the local review on this model by Car Expert:

[Citroënbender]

All hat and no cattle?

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

All hat and no cattle?

He’s just about had his use by date.

As for F150 I had one coming and was told it was in the first batch due to arrive in Brisbane on the 15/12.
That day came and guess what…. The car I was allocated hasn’t even been remanufactured. Apparently Ford + RMA are relying on an excel spreadsheet to track these cars.

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by ToryMikey

We saw that with automatic cars around 10-15 years ago. Dealers only stocked autos, refused to do custom orders, so mainly autos sold, giving manufacturers the excuse to start axing manual versions!

Wish my kids paid as much attention to automotive stuff when they were twelve

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by ToryMikey

Nice to see the Occupied West Taiwan market Ranger gets the 1982 Falcon's rear suspension, rather than the 1960 Falcon's rear suspension that we get.

This version was also done by T6 Aussie team before many were let go.
So yeah, when you think of it, there’s probably a lot of input from engineers who developed
the Falcon and Territory. So your back handed comment was a slight against them…

As with so many other applications, that team’s ability to stretch a development dollar is legendary,
switching the glitchy 10R for a Chinese ZF8HP and reusing the Raptor’s rear suspension all look
to be great moves that unfortunately, we will never see in a vehicle like that in Australia.

[jpd80]

While the F150 turbocharger problem is stopping deliveries, owners who have taken delivery
have been told they can keep driving.

Whatever the issue, that bodes well for a quick remedy and resumption of deliveries.

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by jpd80

This version was also done by T6 Aussie team before many were let go.
So yeah, when you think of it, there’s probably a lot of input from engineers who developed
the Falcon and Territory. So your back handed comment was a slight against them…

As with so many other applications, that team’s ability to stretch a development dollar is legendary,
switching the glitchy 10R for a Chinese ZF8HP and reusing the Raptor’s rear suspension all look
to be great moves that unfortunately, we will never see in a vehicle like that in Australia.

Shame we don't get the ecoboost Everest that the middle east gets.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

Shame we don't get the ecoboost Everest that the middle east gets.

Part of me hopes the 2.3 EB Amorok does well in Australia, it’s in a high end model
but I could see something like 2.3 EB XLT or Sport version doing well

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Knowing Ford, they will unveil an EV Ranger 2 years before it goes on sale, take a heap of orders, then say nothing for 3 years and when it does arrive, Ford will end up with any one or more of the following excuses.................

- Lack of supply
- Lack of parts supply
- An incurable virus
- The factory burnt down or flooded
- Arguments with unionized labor delaying production
- Other markets want it more so we miss out
- Some sort of manufacturing fault that, despite many years of development and millions of dollars spent, wasn't picked up on prior to start of production.

And so on and so on...................

And this is why we keep asking for the AUII to be re-manufactured, because none of those problems affected it...

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by jpd80

This version was also done by T6 Aussie team before many were let go.
So yeah, when you think of it, there’s probably a lot of input from engineers who developed
the Falcon and Territory. So your back handed comment was a slight against them…

As with so many other applications, that team’s ability to stretch a development dollar is legendary,
switching the glitchy 10R for a Chinese ZF8HP and reusing the Raptor’s rear suspension all look
to be great moves that unfortunately, we will never see in a vehicle like that in Australia.

Tip of the hat to those guys, if any of you are reading, thank you for great cars.

[jpd80]

113 F150s delivered in December

[Sprintey]

Look forward to seeing one!

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by jpd80

While the F150 turbocharger problem is stopping deliveries, owners who have taken delivery
have been told they can keep driving.

Whatever the issue, that bodes well for a quick remedy and resumption of deliveries.

christ, how re assuring for the few delivered owners there is/was a supplier component issue or whatever.
I'd be thinking not even a 100 deliveries and the QC didn't pick up the prob for the $$$'s I spent in the first place.
Sorry.

[Syndrome]

3 out of 113 is a high failure rate.

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by FTE217

christ, how re assuring for the few delivered owners there is/was a supplier component issue or whatever.
I'd be thinking not even a 100 deliveries and the QC didn't pick up the prob for the $$$'s I spent in the first place.
Sorry.

Certainly makes you think twice about buying something new these days , manufacturers don't seam to be concerned about their reputations? , if I spent 140k on a F150 I would expect it to be perfect or at the very least fixed quickly

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

3 out of 113 is a high failure rate.

Syn matey, the 113 is vfacts numbers to date whereas I expect this prob was detected bit before that 113.
Also re read the below statement not just the 3 mentioned in the last paragraph.:

"Ford Australia has instructed its dealer network to stop the sale and delivery of the remanufactured Ford F-150, after several vehicles presented with a turbocharger fault related to the remanufacturing process."

“Out of an abundance of caution Ford Australia has placed a temporary hold on F-150s that are on their way to dealers or in dealer stock, after three re-manufactured vehicles presented with a turbo-charger related concern.”

[Franco Cozzo]

I want more context on this 'turbo-charger related concern'.

What exactly is the problem and why is it only on the conversion vehicles? I'd assume they wouldn't even touch the turbo/engine, unless maybe they're re-routed oil and coolant lines to it.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I want more context on this 'turbo-charger related concern'.

What exactly is the problem and why is it only on the conversion vehicles? I'd assume they wouldn't even touch the turbo/engine, unless maybe they're re-routed oil and coolant lines to it.

That was my thinking as well. Even if they did remove the engine from the rolling chassis, there would be no reason to remove the turbochargers from the engine. I would think this issue is with a component in support of the turbochargers, as in hoses/fluid lines/actuators.

[Citroënbender]

I’d not be surprised if the (presumed) reflashing gave it more of a nudge than the local development team initially let on, and now Ford are worried about liability. Before and after recall on a dyno could be interesting.