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Old 08-09-2006, 03:50 PM   #1
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Default Swastika on bonnet = trouble

I can't believe what I saw today. There was a dark grey Eunos driving through Clayton with a large swastika taped across the bonnet. WTF???

I understand this symbol has a different meaning in some cultures but if these guys weren't neo nazi's or something, you'd think they'd know enough not to display it like that. :

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Old 08-09-2006, 03:51 PM   #2
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I think its there choice to display whatever they want. I dont pick on everyone elses beliefs, including theres. But it is asking for trouble.
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:58 PM   #3
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was it a swastika, did the arms point clockwise or anticlockwise. Anticlockwise is the buddist(I think) symbol for peace, albeit not often used after the winter of 1945

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Old 08-09-2006, 04:04 PM   #4
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Yeah, it means peace and equality and things like that, Hitler reversed it and twisted it 45 degrees to mean hatred and superiorness.

Although it freaked me out a bit the first time I went into a Buddist temple, seeing it on the foreheads of the big Buddahs
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was it a swastika, did the arms point clockwise or anticlockwise. Anticlockwise is the buddist(I think) symbol for peace, albeit not often used after the winter of 1945
The top arm pointed right so I guess you could say clockwise.
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Old 08-09-2006, 04:12 PM   #6
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I'd certainly hope so.

I am not a buddhist, but their beliefs I respect.

But if it was a swastika, then I'd spit on the car.

Enough said from me.
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Old 08-09-2006, 04:15 PM   #7
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Just asking for trouble. I think people who deliberately do stuff like this i.e. use offensive language, symbols etc just for shock value ought to be shocked themselves - with a car battery to the groin.
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Old 08-09-2006, 04:17 PM   #8
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People who need to put such **** on their car probably haven't got any groin to speak of...nor a brain.
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Old 08-09-2006, 04:19 PM   #9
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The swastika as used by the nazi's had its open face turning clockwise, and was not always turned at 45deg..
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Old 08-09-2006, 05:48 PM   #10
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I quite like the iron cross on hotrods,each to there own....
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Old 08-09-2006, 06:27 PM   #11
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Hitler didn't design the swastika, it's actually quite old. Everyone's free to express themselves etc etc yadda yadda yadda.. BUT. If your views are so out of whack with the rest of the world as this then you have to be prepared to accept the consequences when people want to drag you from your car and beat you to a pulp. And the rest of us cheer them on.
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The Swastika is only a symbol of the death of many jews...
I don't think genocide is a welcome thing on this forum, or anywhere else on Earth at that...
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I don't think genocide is a welcome thing on this forum, or anywhere else on Earth at that...
Neither is paying out on other peoples beliefs. These people do exist, get over it. Each to there own mate.
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Old 08-09-2006, 07:56 PM   #14
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Bloody HELL its my car! Its actually meant to emphasise the identification of YELLOW in the ghettos!
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Old 08-09-2006, 07:58 PM   #15
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The nazi's stole/borrowed the swastika from the Tibetans whom use it as some sort of religious symbol. But people recognise in this day and age for what it stood for in the 30/40s.
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Bloody HELL its my car! Its actually meant to emphasise the identification of YELLOW in the ghettos!
???? WTF????
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I'll second that ......
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The nazi's stole/borrowed the swastika from the Tibetans whom use it as some sort of religious symbol. But people recognise in this day and age for what it stood for in the 30/40s.
You will also find it on ancient greek/roman art.....
Have a look for a resemblance on ancient shields, spartan I think???

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I'll second that ......
I'm guessing a lame joke. Yellow was the colour of the star of david patches the Jewish people were forced to wear.
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Old 08-09-2006, 08:13 PM   #20
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Sorry Guys! I think Im going through a crisis at the moment! Im ****ed bloto! Damn booze killed my brother and Im depressed. Sorry I am missing him! Why am I drinkin? Bewcause we had many a good time! He wasnt Peter Brock but to me he was greater than that! Im really blue at the moment.....
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Sorry to hear about your brother.
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Sorry Guys! I think Im going through a crisis at the moment! Im ****ed bloto! Damn booze killed my brother and Im depressed. Sorry I am missing him! Why am I drinkin? Bewcause we had many a good time! He wasnt Peter Brock but to me he was greater than that! Im really blue at the moment.....
your alright mate, just wait a minute and think before pushing the submit post button.

P.S. condolices(spell) to you about your brother, its been a sad, sad week.
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Sorry Guys! I think Im going through a crisis at the moment! Im ****ed bloto! Damn booze killed my brother and Im depressed. Sorry I am missing him! Why am I drinkin? Bewcause we had many a good time! He wasnt Peter Brock but to me he was greater than that! Im really blue at the moment.....
Sorry to hear about your brother too, but perhaps typing on the forums isn't the best idea till you dry out a tad
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Old 08-09-2006, 08:25 PM   #24
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I actually thought it originated much, much earlier and was used by Native American Indians - obviously with a completely different meaning to what Hitler gave it.

It certainly asks for trouble in this day and age.
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Im sorry I wont type bad stuff! Yeah ill dry out! Peter I love you! This is my big brothers name!!
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Old 08-09-2006, 11:03 PM   #26
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To put the record straight for once and for all......from wikipedia

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"The swastika (from Sanskrit स्वस्तिक svastika, from su "well", and asti "being", thus "good fortune" or "well-being") is an equilateral cross with its arms bent at right angles in either left-facing (卍) or right-facing (卐) direction. The swastika is a sacred symbol in Hinduism and Jainism. The Hindu version is often decorated with a dot in each quadrant."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

There is a pic there, so if you want to check if that was the one you saw or not. If it wasnt then the person is a bloody nazi hilarious too seeing he is driving a japanese car...

edit: had a chat with dad (our family has indian origins and seems to be more to the story....

quote from wiki again (the germans didn't really steal it just used it for badness)

"The symbol experienced a resurgence following the archaeological work in the late nineteenth century of Heinrich Schliemann, who discovered the symbol in the site of ancient Troy and associated it with the ancient migrations of Proto-Indo-Europeans ("Aryan" people). He connected it with similar shapes found on ancient pots in Germany, and theorised that the swastika was a "significant religious symbol of our remote ancestors," linking ancient German, Greek and Vedic culture.[1] [2] By the early 20th century it was widely used worldwide and was regarded as a symbol of good luck and auspiciousness."
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Im sorry I wont type bad stuff! Yeah ill dry out! Peter I love you! This is my big brothers name!!

Sorry to hear about the bad news. He must have been a great brother.
But hey, he's got 2 great Aussie mates up there to hang out with.
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Old 09-09-2006, 08:38 AM   #29
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love it or hate it, the sun wheel certainly is one of the most powerful & recognisable symbols of all time. If he wanted attention, he certainly would have got it!
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Old 09-09-2006, 09:27 AM   #30
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In germany its illegal to display the swastika or sing Uber alles. Here its not.

A simular symbol is used by those mostly around the tibet region as a health symbol and is often found all over hosptials etc in that region.

While its a very prevolkative symbol, it is popping up more and more. WWII was 50 years ago and people are forgetting what happened. These days only idiots use it. Even the right wing groups have stopped using it.

Then again I suppose these days if you painted a lebonese or Israeli flag on your car that would most likely draw almost as much attention..

The iron cross is actually the maltese cross. A widely used symbol, for ages, some right wing groups are now using that instead. But given its wide usage I don't think it will offend that many people.

Don't forget the Germans and the Japanese had a alliance during WWII. The germans gave them a lot of technology. They had plans for german jet fighters, subs, V1/V2 missiles, and were going to continue with Germanys nuclear program after germany fell.

To some people, the rising sun flag is just as bad as a swastika.
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