Gear Box Went Bang !!!!!!!!

[STORKYGT]

I pulled out of work late last night and cruized up the road wich doesnt happen very often i am usualy sidways out of work lol ........ and.... 1st.....ok 2nd.....ok 3rd bang 4...... ok 5th ....ok it still drives in 3rd but it makes a hell of a racket if anybody has or knows someone with a 5 speed box wich i am pretty sure it is a T5 ? i will probably get a reco one from my way but i thought someone may have one they want to get rid off i am in melbourne and does anybody know does a ba box fit in a au ????????

[StealthAu]

ba box wouldn't be a straight swap, though it has been done. AU's have T5's which are a dime a dozen, go to any wreckers there bound to have plenty

[STORKYGT]

yhea i am bound to find i just thought i could pick one up of somebody on here!!

[RspecAU]

Originally Posted by au99-xr8

I pulled out of work late last night and cruized up the road wich doesnt happen very often i am usualy sidways out of work lol ........ and.... 1st.....ok 2nd.....ok 3rd bang 4...... ok 5th ....ok it still drives in 3rd but it makes a hell of a racket if anybody has or knows someone with a 5 speed box wich i am pretty sure it is a T5 ? i will probably get a reco one from my way but i thought someone may have one they want to get rid off i am in melbourne and does anybody know does a ba box fit in a au ????????

I feel ur pain i did the same thing a few nights ago for the second time in almost 2 years. I do know to get the T5 reconditioned it will cost 2g+. I'm not to sure about the BA box being a straight swap tho but if it is go for it as i'm looking in to it now for my car. The BA box would have to be a lot stronger in my opinion as i know of 2 that run 11 second quaters.

Cheers Mark

[GlennBA]

T56 time..

[StealthAu]

Originally Posted by GlennAUII

T56 time..

theres a bit of fudging round to fit a t56 to an AU, new gearbox mounts needed and the ahh, the ummm... can't think of the word, but the gap where the gearbox goes needs to be enlarged

[Sledgehammer]

Also dont forget that you need a V8 T5 as they are different to the 6 cyl T5.

[sbutler]

T56 into an AU $8000+ Fitting
I'd be looking at getting a S/H one from the wreckers. Or a rebuild at your local gearbox joint. It would have to be cheaper for a rebuild than $2000??

[FPV8U]

Is it much work to fit the same box thats in the 5.6L T3's?

Surely they would be a better solution then chucking in another T5 and waiting for the same thing to happen again & again & again & again...

[Baboon_AU]

you have probably dropped a bearing on your box.. its usually the 1st.R bearing.. it makes awful noise when driving around

[RspecAU]

Originally Posted by sbutler

T56 into an AU $8000+ Fitting
I'd be looking at getting a S/H one from the wreckers. Or a rebuild at your local gearbox joint. It would have to be cheaper for a rebuild than $2000??

No a rebuild is 2g+ that is the going rate :

[StealthAu]

you can get a recond and strenghtened supra box for less then half that

[STORKYGT]

i found a reco and trade my in for $1000 but i will keep looking i might find something cheaper...................

[philstoj]

Originally Posted by au99-xr8

i found a reco and trade my in for $1000 but i will keep looking i might find something cheaper...................

Where from? more info please

[bomber]

Originally Posted by au99-xr8

i found a reco and trade my in for $1000 but i will keep looking i might find something cheaper...................

I would be interested in knowing where from aswell i need a recoed box aswell

[RspecAU]

Originally Posted by bomber

I would be interested in knowing where from aswell i need a recoed box aswell

I need one aswell...real bad

[sbutler]

Originally Posted by RspecAU

No a rebuild is 2g+ that is the going rate :

From who Ned Kelly?

You can buy brand new 3650 Tremac 5 speed boxes as used in the XR8 & BAGTs for $850
So $2000 for a rebuild on a BW T5 is rubbish! Go to someone else. :

[RspecAU]

Originally Posted by sbutler

From who Ned Kelly?

You can buy brand new 3650 Tremac 5 speed boxes as used in the XR8 & BAGTs for $850
So $2000 for a rebuild on a BW T5 is rubbish! Go to someone else. :

To be honest with you i don't know why the BA XR8 box wont fit but i would imagine the bell housing maybe different as far as blot holes lining up, the depth of maybe a lot different to. Who knows but i am looking into it.
Do you know anyone who will do a quality rebiuld a box for less than 2000? I know thats what G&D charges as i had it done there last time.

[mik]

bayfords spare parts campbellfield had a 5 slotter sitting on the counter about $800 i think, i didnt take notice of the part number , it might be worth a phone call.

[just me]

i thought that all au's have a tremec t5 no a borg warner one i no for sure the one in my xr6 says tremec on the side of the box near the shifter mount

[56L]

Originally Posted by FPV8U

Is it much work to fit the same box thats in the 5.6L T3's?

Surely they would be a better solution then chucking in another T5 and waiting for the same thing to happen again & again & again & again...

You would have next to zero chance finding one and if you do about 4-5grand second hand,even though they are a tremec 3650 they have been heavily modified by tickford to fit the au.
Tickford had to build an intermediate bellhousing to fit behind the original bellhousing to bring the gearstick back a fair bit otherwise the gearstick would hit the dash thats why a BA tremec 3650 wont fit an AU.
The AU tremec 3650 also has a chevy pattern 26spline input shaft and therefore you will need another clutch plate and worst of all ford has next to zero parts for these things . :

[philstoj]

BA tremecs dont have a provision for speedo gear, i also heard that they are 4" too long aswell.
If it can be done cheaply, that box would already be sitting in my ute..lol.

[sbutler]

Originally Posted by RspecAU

To be honest with you i don't know why the BA XR8 box wont fit but i would imagine the bell housing maybe different as far as blot holes lining up, the depth of maybe a lot different to. Who knows but i am looking into it.
Do you know anyone who will do a quality rebiuld a box for less than 2000? I know thats what G&D charges as i had it done there last time.

I thought G&D were a tuning shop simular to Herrod???
They would most likley just pull the box out & send it off to be fixed anyway.

The guy I use is in Tumbi umbi about 15Ks north of Gosford NSW.
So I dont think he'll be any good to you.
You will be better of tracking down a gearbox & diff place near you, tell them you need the box looked at & repair any parts that need reparing. NOT reco the box as it may not need it. [a couple of new bearings, third gear set, & some sincro rings] & that mabe it!

When racing with the T5 B/W third gear was the weakest link in them, so we got the box rebuilt using all the V8 bearings & gears & what not, as they do in the saloon car racing. I havent been invovled in it for some time, so Im out of the loop now.

But I suggest, find out who rebuilds the boxes for the series & give them a call. They'll have all the right info for you, then you can order the bits you need & get someone [gearbox & diff joint]to put it all togther for you. Should save you a fair bit, just a little bit of reserch goes a long way. : :

[GK]

I've been thinking about this a bit lately.

The auto in the SR is a bit dodgy (crummy changes mostly down, but a few up in today's heat) and I have a shuddering at some speeds, when slowing down. I understand that this could be the torque converter?

I know the solenoids in the box need doing $450 and if the tc was stuffed too, it'd almost be worth the while going a manual conversion for the old girl.

Make it much more fun to drive I reckon!

GK

[Whoosha]

mmm Dont know about these boxes being cheap or easy to find best price I could get from the wreckers 2nd hand was around the 2k if you Could find one ..a new cluster alone was $1400 supply only when mine went Bang . lucky for me my dealer hounered the warranty even though it was out by 3 months.. so any thing around $1000 s/h is a bargin I.M.O

[RspecAU]

Good news i have had Craig at A.C.E find a box for me and i'll be able to get out of this for a grand :
For anyone else who wants a box there is one on ebay for $1375 or $1500 buy it now.

Cheers Mark

[sbutler]

All's well that end's well... :