Cluster question

josh_hartman · 17-01-2007, 07:41 PM

i just bought an au1 fairmont cluster for my au1 forte. now with the little car on the lcd screen will that show which door is open or will it show all off them open? Also i want to put blue LED's in it. Does anyone know what the code is so i can order them. i cant tell which one they are on the narva website and has anyone put an fairmont dash in a forte?

au2sw · 17-01-2007, 07:46 PM

it should show which door/s open. u may find though that a few things wont work. i had this problem when i owned an xd and tried fitting an s-pac dash to it, a lot of it didnt work/mate up. perhaps times have changed and ford have a lot of the same wiring in the base models up to the luxury models, then again...pigs might fly. good luck with it.

The Monty · 17-01-2007, 07:52 PM

It will show aeach one as it is open. Plus your boot and your fuel door!!!

josh_hartman · 17-01-2007, 07:59 PM

will it still show DTE because in the fairmont it shows DTE on the big LCD screen in the middle of the car?

The Monty · 17-01-2007, 08:22 PM

I dont think mine has DTE there. It has the cruise on and set instead.

au2sw · 17-01-2007, 09:00 PM

dte should still work, but as i said before, there maybe a problem with how it all mates up. fingers crossed for u. do u have both out and in front of u atm? if so it is a good idea to sit in the car and check that all the plugs will fit and are the correct ones for the area. also a good time now to pull out the bulbs to replace with blue ones as u will them have the correct size. take an example to repco or similar car store and see if they cannt fit u up with the number required.

JC · 18-01-2007, 01:39 AM

The fiarmonts have individual wires to show doors open - Forte has one wire.

DTE won't work, as it's not included on the Fiarmont cluster, BUT you will know what gear you are in (maybe).

Oil pressure is a gauge on the Fairmont cluster, but a light on the Forte, so you will need to change the sender unit in the motor (underneath the thermostat housing).

There's an article on fordmods that shows what you need to do when upgrading clusters. It's probably much the same as an XD GL to S pac upgrade!

josh_hartman · 19-01-2007, 07:32 PM

Hmm so has anyone here actually done it. my dash arrives monday or tuesday

AU1XLS · 19-01-2007, 07:51 PM

Yes I have follow the article in fordmods like JC suggested
I did mine by getting hold of some plugs and making an adaptor loom as per the pic
Go the fordmods way is far easier

josh_hartman · 22-01-2007, 07:53 PM

ok just got my dash today and plugged it in and the standard 4 wires need to be changed but i have a few more questions. on my forte the colours of the wires are different to what was on the info i got and where can i get that adapter from?

AU1XLS · 22-01-2007, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by josh_hartman

ok just got my dash today and plugged it in and the standard 4 wires need to be changed but i have a few more questions. on my forte the colours of the wires are different to what was on the info i got and where can i get that adapter from?

You have to make the adaptor to much mucking around. I did it before I discovered these forums & fordmods.
Have you checked out fordmods.com for the instructions?

josh_hartman · 22-01-2007, 08:10 PM

yeh i cant find it on ford mods. could you send me the link please?

JC · 22-01-2007, 10:10 PM

try here:
http://fordmods.com/forums/documents.php?doc=4

josh_hartman · 24-01-2007, 05:22 PM

ok i put the dash in and wired it like it said but the low water level light keeps falshing all the time and when i turn my lights on the lcd screen lights turn off but the lights for the dials turn on. any help?

josh_hartman · 24-01-2007, 08:27 PM

oh and its the coolant light (water light)

josh_hartman · 25-01-2007, 06:04 PM

hmm i guess no one can help :(

AU1XLS · 25-01-2007, 07:14 PM

Sounds like an earthing issue have you checked all the pins you relocated have seated properly and are not pushing back out
Is a yellow/red wire in pin 3 thats the low coolant wire?

josh_hartman · 26-01-2007, 12:05 PM

all the wires are in the correct spot and the abs light doesnt come on when i turn the ignition on

peterban · 26-01-2007, 04:16 PM

Does the AU1 forte have the coolant sensor in the reservoir?
You can tell by the wires hanging out the side of the reservoir.
It may be that you will have to upgrade the reservoir, costs about $100

josh_hartman · 27-01-2007, 09:49 AM

it doesnt have wires coming out off it. if i buy a new one where will i plug the wire into?

AU1XLS · 27-01-2007, 10:04 AM

Do you want the low level indication?
If you do you upgrade the resevoir but check that there is a plug/socket near your brake master cylinder to plug it into first (there should be).
Otherwise wait for me to check resistance needed to trick the the cluster into thinking the resevoir is at the correct level and get back to you.

josh_hartman · 27-01-2007, 10:13 AM

just looked and i couldnt find any empty plugs or anything. there is a few plugs but there all taken

josh_hartman · 27-01-2007, 10:17 AM

oh and i have had another problem ever since i plugged it in without rewiring. when i turn the lights on the lcd screen turns off and then i changed the wires and the dash lights came on but lcd screen lights still turned off. during the day when i dont use lights the lcd screen is totally fine. is this another wiring problem or is it my cluster?

AU1XLS · 27-01-2007, 10:51 AM

The old cluster obviously worked ok; does your light switch have a dimmer on it? If not that could be the reason. Does anybody else have any thoughts?
When you say turned off do you mean dimmed have you checked at night because as far as I Know the LCD part should be brighter in day time so you can see it but dim when you turn headlights on so as not to be over powering at night.

josh_hartman · 27-01-2007, 10:53 AM

yeh it has a dimmer on it. no matter what its set on if the parkers or lights are on lcd screen turns off

AU1XLS · 27-01-2007, 10:55 AM

Off completly?

josh_hartman · 27-01-2007, 10:56 AM

no just the lights that make it light up. the actual lcd screen stays on. just almost impossible to see at night

StealthAu · 27-01-2007, 11:58 AM

Hey does it the new dash show what gear you are in?

josh_hartman · 27-01-2007, 12:16 PM

yeh it shows what gear i am in but with the doors it only shows my door as open and it doesnt show DTE but that doesnt bother me too much

StealthAu · 27-01-2007, 12:18 PM

I'm not sure, but at a guess if you put it into diagnostics mode it should show the dte