big boys toys

mik · 15-02-2007, 09:57 PM

i don`t know full details but apparently there was an organised car show at chadstone shopping centre called big boys toys hot rods and stuff, i was told the display cars where hit by the boys in blue with defect notices and then hit again with parking tickets for not being parked correctly any one, know more about this??

Kenster · 15-02-2007, 10:17 PM

Yeah all that took place i was there, the boys in blue had like 5 guys and 3 cops cars literically there walking around taking notes and defecting people while autobarn person just telling them to go away since this is a event and the people werent in the wrong. Sad to see all those nice cars just getting the yellow stickers alot of the people were disappointed

T_Terror · 15-02-2007, 10:19 PM

Yeah i heard autobarn chadstone was supposed to have a show adn shine and 30% off which sounds great.

Didnt hear anything about the fun police showing up though, any more info?

Kenster · 15-02-2007, 10:41 PM

All i know there were defecting every car which was literically lowerd that all i saw

T_Terror · 15-02-2007, 10:45 PM

Outrageous.

Easternats and Springnats being defected out of existence, the Campbellfielf burnout pad tryin to be shut down and simple show and shines being f*ckd off.

Its like they dont want car enthusiasts doing the right thing, keep it to the streets hey!

Kenster · 15-02-2007, 11:05 PM

the way there were at it yes it is going to be like that, it showing that we cant enjoy our hobby anymore but other people cant which is extremely unfair on all of us car enthusiasts

mik · 16-02-2007, 08:03 PM

is harrasment the right word......?

LTDHO · 16-02-2007, 08:06 PM

Just a heads up.

Don't let this thread end up like this thread

XA-Coupe · 16-02-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenster

the way there were at it yes it is going to be like that, it showing that we cant enjoy our hobby anymore but other people cant which is extremely unfair on all of us car enthusiasts

The problem isnt the enthusiasts, it's the knobs doing burnouts and street racing and making a bad name for the enthusiasts. It is unfortunately a fact of life.

flappist · 16-02-2007, 10:54 PM

There is a reason why Vicpol are handing out "canaries".
The ADRs are designed to ensure that the vehicles on out roads are safe. Many of the modifications made by people cause the vehicle to behave in eraticly or dangerously in some situations.
Do you really want to be hurt or killed because some idiot has lowered his car so far that the brakes do not work or has so many neons that he does not see you or has so much power that he loses it in the wet and drives over the top of you?

Coppers have a very difficult job. They have sworn to uphold the law. They have sworn to protect the rsoles who hate them. They have sworn to be the target for every idiot who thinks they should be running the world and they are the ones who we all call on when we are in trouble.

One of the interestin thing about "canaries" is that they are like booze busses, they mean nothing unless you are in breech.......

AU2PWR · 17-02-2007, 01:01 AM

Im Gunna Get Shived for this ...

I Respect the Police for Doing their Job , For the Money they get payed to Put Up with all the Junk on Victorian Soil at the moment, who could blame them ..

Lets Look at some Facts -

Noble Park Riots , Started because some Hoon did a Burnout and the Cops Pulled him over , along with a Tow Truck under the New Hoon Laws and Tried to Tow Him away , but A Large Mob Surrounded them and the Police Disengaged the Area , Whilst the Mob Grew in numbers , the Police were outnumbered , and whilst calling for Backup, Local Buisnesses were Trashed , Riot Police Arrived , all Ended

Result - South East Victoria is the WORST place to Go for a Drive on Friday?Saturday Nites , Because of the New Zero Tolerance stance on Drag Racing and Hooning in the Greater Dandenong Area..

Chadstone AutoBarn , People Parked on Public Land , Causing that to be Judged as Illegal Parking , and Some Poor Planning on AutoBarns Organising Skills ,

Result - Cars 'Rightfully So' Defected , People Asked to Move on , as Part of the area was Chadstone Shopping Centers Land , and AutoBarn had no Agreement for that Land to be Used ...

Police are Only doing their Job , so before you all pull out your Knives and prepare to stab me , Im Not a Cop , Im a P Plater , Driving the Car I Love , and its Hard to Appreciate and Show off the Hard work , Sacrifice and Dedication when a Few ******* Do Burnouts , Destroy Property and Rebel against the Law...

theres my Rant , hope i dont cause another Arguement !

XA-Coupe - too Right Jeff , the Minority Controls the Majority , wrecking it for all !

kenster - theres a Difference between lowered , and " What are Springs Officer ?"

angelfury · 17-02-2007, 03:03 PM

flappist, AU2PWR and xa-coupe - what a god-damn surprise. people here actually speaking sense on the subject. thoroughly agree: the minority have wrecked it for all, and if you have an illegal mod and get pinged, tough.

so if you want to do something about the situation, go and bale up those ******* driving like morons. once you get rid of them, the coppers will be a whole lot more lenient on mod's and the car enthusiast community as a whole.

AU2PWR · 17-02-2007, 03:33 PM

Its the pure fact that the People Behind the Wheel are More or Less Dropouts of Society , who cry about paying High Taxes and Getting hard deals from the police ..

Think about it , You Wreck a Road , Council Fixes it with your Tax Money ...

Its just for the downtime , everyone suffers , until someone else does somthing stupid again ...

Interceptor · 17-02-2007, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AU2PWR

Think about it , You Wreck a Road , Council Fixes it with your Tax Money ...

more often than not its:

council cheapskates road "upgrades" (so the councillors can have more expensive wine and caviar at thier meetings) causing the road surface to fail as soon as water gets on it, potholes form, complaints are lodged witht he council, and nothing is done untill an accident kills someone, forcing the council to beg the state or federal governments for extra funding to deal with the "notorious blackspot", government funds upgrades and instructs speed cameras to be placed as the "real" problem was speed........ of course, if you're living in victoria, they triple the number of speed cameras in that otherwise safe stretch of road to pay for the upgrades....... which take years to appear.....

as for the police, think about it for a second

phone the police to report a burglar in your house, police turn up 4-5 days later, poke around and tell you theres not much they can do

phone the police to report 2 commodores drag racing out front, half the patrol cars within a 100km radius descend on your suburb within minutes.....

reason for my attitude? i've been told too many times by the cops "what do you want us to do about it? sort the problem out yourself"

XA-Coupe · 17-02-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Interceptor

as for the police, think about it for a second

phone the police to report a burglar in your house, police turn up 4-5 days later, poke around and tell you theres not much they can do

phone the police to report 2 commodores drag racing out front, half the patrol cars within a 100km radius descend on your suburb within minutes.....

reason for my attitude? i've been told too many times by the cops "what do you want us to do about it? sort the problem out yourself"

No one's been killed by a cold burg that I know of.... many people have been killed by people street racing or driving like a tool. Easy for the cops to prioritise don't you think ?

Interceptor · 17-02-2007, 06:26 PM

easier for the cops to make thier quota and get promotions harassing people at a car show than go after burglars, rapists, murderers, etc isnt it

ok, so not many people have been killed in burglaries, but how many in-home murders could be put down to disturbed burglars?

XA-Coupe · 17-02-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Interceptor

easier for the cops to make thier quota and get promotions harassing people at a car show than go after burglars, rapists, murderers, etc isnt it

lol, yeah, if you say so

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angelfury · 17-02-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Interceptor

easier for the cops to make thier quota and get promotions harassing people at a car show than go after burglars, rapists, murderers, etc isnt it

community expectations are facing fair and square at society's hoon element. police resources are put where possible where the community is screaming the most. right at this moment, that's at hoon drivers.

Interceptor · 17-02-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by angelfury

community expectations are facing fair and square at society's hoon element. police resources are put where possible where the community is screaming the most. right at this moment, that's at hoon drivers.

tell me...... how is a car show going to affect the community? its the dickheads in busted **** piece of **** cars "drifting" and being fulli sik that are the problem, not enthusiasts showing pride in thier cars at an organised event where the cars arent even moving

when the local police cracked down on what little there is of a "hoon" element (usually just the boys going out, doing a few laps then sitting down chatting in the local woolies carpark), i told the local traffic officer to his face that drug and alcohol problems would skyrocket, he swore blind nothing like that would happen, but within 6 months the headlines read "Concern over binge drinking"

from one problem to another....... but they wont listen to the public, only the politicians when they scream for more revenue

XA-Coupe · 17-02-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Interceptor

when the local police cracked down on what little there is of a "hoon" element (usually just the boys going out, doing a few laps then sitting down chatting in the local woolies carpark), i told the local traffic officer to his face that drug and alcohol problems would skyrocket, he swore blind nothing like that would happen, but within 6 months the headlines read "Concern over binge drinking"

from one problem to another....... but they wont listen to the public, only the politicians when they scream for more revenue

Perhaps you should go and speak to the commissioner and get yourself a job with Police Command ??

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Interceptor · 17-02-2007, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by XA-Coupe

Perhaps you should go and speak to the commissioner and get yourself a job with Police Command ??

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and then get told to raise revenue so politicians could further ****** this country up? no way in hell

i'll voice my opinion at the polling booth thankyou

ThatsMyRide · 18-02-2007, 03:11 PM

Hey all,

Just to clarify this issue

- The organisers had autho from Chadstone management and the police to hold the event. police were also invited to participate and have a stand at the show.

- Main issue is not the defects but the way in which the show was targeted and defects handed out during the show. The smart thing to have done would have been to set up a bust, post event and checked all cars coming out of chadstone not just the show cars.

- in total 5 cars were defected - 3 club cars and 2 promo / demo cars (pioneer ute and orion car) Out of these defects 2-3 were due to rim/tyre upgrades which have been already proven to be incorrectly issued and fixed. Still awaiting copies of the other defects.

Just incase anyone is wondering who is this guy!!!!
Im the one of the organiser

If anyone would like anything clarified just ask

PS the RX7 that wa towed on the news was not as a result of the defects but at the owners request in an attempt to not get anymore police "attention" on the way home

ThatsMyRide · 18-02-2007, 03:25 PM

also some pics of the event..... you can make up your own minds about what the police should have done

http://www.supraforums.com.au/forum/...ad.php?t=28971

Outbackjack · 18-02-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatsMyRide

Hey all,

Just to clarify this issue

- The organisers had autho from Chadstone management and the police to hold the event. police were also invited to participate and have a stand at the show.

- Main issue is not the defects but the way in which the show was targeted and defects handed out during the show. The smart thing to have done would have been to set up a bust, post event and checked all cars coming out of chadstone not just the show cars.

- in total 5 cars were defected - 3 club cars and 2 promo / demo cars (pioneer ute and orion car) Out of these defects 2-3 were due to rim/tyre upgrades which have been already proven to be incorrectly issued and fixed. Still awaiting copies of the other defects.

Just incase anyone is wondering who is this guy!!!!
Im the one of the organiser

If anyone would like anything clarified just ask

PS the RX7 that wa towed on the news was not as a result of the defects but at the owners request in an attempt to not get anymore police "attention" on the way home

I have been watching this thread evolve and wondering what was the "whole truth" If indeed these are the facts, then I would say that the police, or who ever told them to go out to the show and put some cars off the road, have made a very negative gesture to the automotive enthusiast. Almost like a concious descision was made to make more people think even less of the police. Pretty dumb I think.

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jcxr · 18-02-2007, 03:42 PM

This really makes you think twice about any future shows. I have thought about one in the northen suburbs , already have MAJOR sponsor ,but now it could be a no go.

ThatsMyRide · 18-02-2007, 03:43 PM

Im sure that you hear more about this soon as organisers and sponsers are very upset at the actions of the police and want answers as to who gave the order to come down and start defecting during a show which had alot of financial backing.

Outbackjack · 18-02-2007, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatsMyRide

Im sure that you hear more about this soon as organisers and sponsers are very upset at the actions of the police and want answers as to who gave the order to come down and start defecting during a show which had alot of financial backing.

Good, it's one thing defecting a car whilst being driven in a dangerous manner, but sitting in a car park during an approved and legal car show.... Thats rite up there with camera's in wheelie bins. The police could have turned this into a positive outcome if they turned up and had a yarn or two to the drivers/owners. Might have even changed the attitude of one or two younger drivers for the better.

I look forward to hearing of any outcomes.

Pinkbits · 18-02-2007, 04:06 PM

What confuses me is that on 24/3/07 at Shepparton, there is a "Rock'n'Rod" day in support of Vic Police blue ribbon fund, and organised by them as well.
Just wondering if they have any plans to "attend" that too?

holmsy · 18-02-2007, 04:38 PM

i think they should actually send out cops to these meets purely to chat to car owners. if a car is obviously unroadworthy. simply mention the fact they could get pulled up for it.

if they talked to alot of the car owners im sure some of them would go home and fix the issue with their car.

of course alot of people wouldn't change it. but if you can get a few cars made safer as well as create a good relationship between car enthusiasts and cops then it can only be a positive thing.

BZINGA · 19-02-2007, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by REDXR8BLOKE

What confuses me is that on 24/3/07 at Shepparton, there is a "Rock'n'Rod" day in support of Vic Police blue ribbon fund, and organised by them as well.
Just wondering if they have any plans to "attend" that too?

I wonder how many people are having second thoughts about attending this Rod show after whats happened, yes its for a good cause but knowing that the police will be there in more numbers than normal, must put alot of people in doubt in taking there cars EVEN if they think they are road worthy.