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Old 20-03-2007, 08:21 PM   #1
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hey mates
looking at tiling my house
just wanna know if there is anyone with a bit of knowledge on it?

atm, i pulled up my vinyl, and there is a clear base adhesive on the floor atm...
can I basically putthe cement based adhesive over this layer without any problems?

any advice would be mad as

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Old 20-03-2007, 08:37 PM   #2
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might need to give it a sand first
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Old 20-03-2007, 09:38 PM   #3
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Is the house on a slab or timber sub-floor ?
If it's timber you would be best to nail down some cement sheet tile underlay.
If it's a concrete slab i would ring a tile supplier and ask them to be sure, or hire a concrete grinder and give it the once over.
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Old 20-03-2007, 11:45 PM   #4
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hrmm alright
yer the bottom is tile slab
might need to ring up a pro to get some advice

any other hints while tiling would be awesome aswell
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Old 20-03-2007, 11:52 PM   #5
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don't tile yourself into an in-escapable corner

juast go for it mate, tiling is pretty easy if you have the patience and a good eye for squaredness, the cuts will prolly be the trickiest, could probably hire a decent cutter though
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Old 21-03-2007, 12:10 AM   #6
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What looks the best imo is start in the middle of the room in a big line up and down and work your way towards the sides therefore you will have full tiles all the way across except for the edges. And if your doing any wall tiling try and find some of that metal strip that goes over the edge of the highest tile on the wall, it looks much better than a painted tile edge.

**edit** oh and definately what he said^^ hire or buy a tile cutter, makes life much easier, the water ones are better because they dont create so much dust but a cheapie dry one from bunnings will do the job just fine.
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Old 21-03-2007, 12:14 AM   #7
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im a girl
i did it, and i even put the tiles on the angle!!!!
i used the concrete scraper machine, too easy
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Old 21-03-2007, 12:15 AM   #8
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although jamie did start it off


get yourself a good quality tile cutter and a decent tape measure helps too will make the job a lot easier!!!!
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yerp, bought a tile cutter and got evverything to do it :hehe:
just wondering about whether I should get rid of this old clear glue that kept the old vinyl on

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Old 21-03-2007, 10:17 AM   #10
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The trick is getting the first one right. It's all downhill from there.
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Old 21-03-2007, 10:18 AM   #11
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yerp, bought a tile cutter and got evverything to do it :hehe:
just wondering about whether I should get rid of this old clear glue that kept the old vinyl on

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id take the glue off, or else you may get hollow points under the tile which can result in breakages. i hired a machine from bunnings to do it
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Old 21-03-2007, 10:25 AM   #12
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Hi,

If it is leaving a glue residue behind you want to treat it first. You can sand the floor but thta is a fair bit of work. Get this stuff called Ultrabond made by Davco. Scread the floor with that first. Using Ultrabond you can even leave the vynil and scread over that. Space the tiles out dry allowing room for the gaps as they do add up over a distance. You want to have even cuts along all the walls. You can also get little spacer/crosses to help you keep it even and tight.

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Old 23-03-2007, 11:06 AM   #13
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oh alright hmmmm
stil wondering whether I should remove the stuff ayes

the ultrabond stuff is a quick fix? jusrt put the stuff over and put the tiles on top?


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like i said, just a quick sand will do the job. You can hire a floor sander from any decent hire shop. while you're there pick up a tile cutter...
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Old 23-03-2007, 09:38 PM   #15
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get rid of the glue. Or at least most of it and rough the surface up. Increased surface area for bonding. Used to do bathroom demo and loved it when people left old adhesive under tiles. They just peeled off the walls and floor hehe.
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Old 24-03-2007, 07:30 AM   #16
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gday,I helped a extiler tile our new house 30+ sqaures,border tile and 45 deg laid,and for a slab you want to use a rubber base glue,and give the old glue a good sand ,now we started planning from a corner where its the first part of the room you see when you walk in as if you start in the centre the edging will have half and quater tiles and doesnt look very good,It took us 3 days,7am,10pm work as there was alot of cutting and we made a feature ,Im not happy with the tile uneveness though so make sure when you lay them they are perfectly level and your grout join is even,my tiler said they would settle and they didnt in places.Also I found a few tiles loose or hollow so they arnt fully glued so they need to be fixed,generally they look good ,I will say this though if you dont have time and patiece dont start it your self,it hard on your back and knees aswell ,so get some knee pads,and clean buckets for your glue mixs and grout.

Ive still got to do my verandah yet which will need a sand cement base,but thats another story

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used to tile a few years ago ...

first of all have a good flat prepared surface, ie remove previous glue, old vinyl, rhio, bumps etc, that will make ur work much easier afterwards

second use a good flexable glue, less cracking later on

third measure the place out very carefully and mark out where u wanna start, spend and extra hour mesure it out, befor eu start, ie where to set half tiles, cuts etc, u dont want a too small of a cut on one end and a full tile on the other, better to have two half cuts on each end

third have a good end especially straight - straight edge, as long as possible to go from one side of the room to the other

try to tile the longest side possible ie if u have a 3m side and a 5m side, try to tle along the 5m side

depending on tile size try to tile only two rows at a time, allow for 5mm grout gaps when measuring and placing straight edges

use chorkline to line out the tiles area

sweep floor and then quickly wipe over with a damp cloth before putting glue down

mix glue to right consistency, not to wet or ur tiles will float away, to dry and tiles will lift later

square ur tiles up when they have set, normaly takes 2 to 3min, so tile a complete row then square them off and then reset straight edge for next row, etc

dont paste the glue to thick on the concrete, or again tile will float away, use a 1cm application spatchelor for large tiles (40 to 50cm by the square), 5 to 8mm for smaller tiles and wall tiles.

when tiling walls, mix the glue thicker and stickier

thats all i can think off for starters

u get the hang of it quickly

oh and take ur time mesuring it all out!!!!!!!
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oh and use a diamond blade for ur angle grinder to cut drains or wall cut outs, but dont chop ur fingers!!!

and for long starught cust use a tile cutter, make sure u have a good dimond wheel on that too, the thicker the tile, the sharper it has to be
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How much are tile cutters to hire for a couple of days?
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