Me thrashing my XR6T on the skid pan yesterday...

Aeron · 01-04-2007, 01:46 PM

Now I know there is a YouTube section, but this is different.

Yesterday I did the Ian Luff stage 2 course for the 3rd time in my XR6T. I didnt get any incar video but dad also did the course in our SS so we got to film each other.

The first clip is of me. Im quite happy with the sideways action on the big circle. On the timed events the good old XR6T out-did everything. S13, S15, R33, SS ute, XR8 ute, Cleo Sport, all conquered by the mighty Falcon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh85K8VEYkg

This clip is of dad in the VX. He’s 56 and its his first time doing this sort of stuff. He’s not a hoon at all so I’d been revving him up to drop the clutch and let what little hair he has, down. Also, the one of the instructors takes our SS for a “spin” so show us how not to do the exercises. Quite entertaining!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VvgtDNe9f8

These advanced driving courses are fantastic and you learn so much in the day. And what you learn could save your life!!

BadMac · 01-04-2007, 02:16 PM

Would have been good to see you in the SS, looks like you can drive, especially that slalom, great lines and speed! Is it a sound problem or was the XR6T bogging until you gave it decent revs (cloverleaf)? My auto seemed very smooth. Love the choices. I have owned both those cars (in red/auto). Quite different and similar.

The instructors way looks heaps more fun, but from what I heard of the times they were much slower?

ardei · 01-04-2007, 02:22 PM

Thanks for that.

Always liked watching your vids on youtube and am planning on completing AT LEAST Stage 1 by the end of the school holidays.

One question I do have, on Stage 2, do they take the FWDs on the same big circle skidpan as the RWDs? Seems a bit futile really....steer,accelerate, back off, brake (if necessary), steer, accelerate, back off, brake....

old_mate · 01-04-2007, 02:24 PM

that instructor gave that SS a hiding in the slalom lol

Is it not quicker to do a flick spin at the end before coming back? i noticed u took a wide berth in the XR6T

Aeron · 01-04-2007, 02:33 PM

With the cloverleaf, the camera has trouble picking up sounds that are a long distance away, so it sounds like im off the throttle, but im not. The run that the instructor did was about 3 sec slower than his tidy lap. But it looks good!!

I was happy with my consistency.
My times for the cloverleaf were:
34.07
34.26 (+0.19)

My slalom times were:
26.70 (Practise run)
26.52
26.63 (+0.11)

They said with the slalom, a mid 26 is as quick as you can go in just about any car. In the 2nd run the instructor said to me, "right, im not going to tell you what to do, you just do it, and it'll pick it to bits afterwards". And that’s when I did the 26.52 :P
He did the same with the cloverleaf.

Had a great time but!!

Aeron · 01-04-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ardei

One question I do have, on Stage 2, do they take the FWDs on the same big circle skidpan as the RWDs? Seems a bit futile really....steer,accelerate, back off, brake (if necessary), steer, accelerate, back off, brake....

Yeh, they take the FWD on there, but the instructor will pull the handbrake on and you have to correct the slide. The FWD boys had a ball on there too.

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Originally Posted by old_mate

that instructor gave that SS a hiding in the slalom lol

Is it not quicker to do a flick spin at the end before coming back? i noticed u took a wide berth in the XR6T

With the flick spin in a RWD it will usually end in a heap of wheel spin. With the wide line I took (and the instructors told everyone to go wide.....) is to keep the car speed up. If you go all the way to the left hand side of the track and turn in a big (but not too big) arc you keep you car speed up. If you flick spin, the car just about comes to a stop (like the instructor did in the SS) and you’ve lost a few Km/h and momentum for the run back home.

DOC · 01-04-2007, 03:07 PM

You look pretty good behind that wheel Aaron, great video's well done.

ten[A]cio[U]s · 01-04-2007, 03:14 PM

Very nicely done Aeron, looked awesome and sounded great.

What were yours times in the SS compared to the xr6t?

FPV8U · 01-04-2007, 03:17 PM

Looks like great fun again Aeron.

Aeron · 01-04-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by crazy-au

Very nicely done Aeron, looked awesome and sounded great.

What were yours times in the SS compared to the xr6t?

Dad was in the SS. His slalom times were high 27's to low 28's. I cant remember his Cloverleaf times. I'll try to find out.

**Bluehoon** · 01-04-2007, 05:10 PM

Nice driving there Aeron. Good to see you're having fun mate!!!!!

rodderz · 01-04-2007, 05:24 PM

Good stuff Aeron. I reckon courses like these should be part of driving tests, how many people would not have a clue about what a car does in such a situation if it occurs. Goes to show that the throttle can a great form of car control in a slide situation

We did a skid pan day a couple of weeks ago, I gave the missus XT a thrash but when I get myself another ute of decent grunt I'll be doing these days again for sure. Probably one of the best days out you can have ina car

Aeron · 01-04-2007, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rodderz

Good stuff Aeron. I reckon courses like these should be part of driving tests, how many people would not have a clue about what a car does in such a situation if it occurs. Goes to show that the throttle can a great form of car control in a slide situation

You are so right! There were people there that had never had a car sideways, or understeer, before and when the car did slide, they didn’t know what to do. On the road, they would have crashed. By the end of the day they had a much better idea about correcting both understeer and oversteer. It was actually quite good to see everyone’s progress. Especially the more "timid" drivers.

jason71 · 01-04-2007, 06:28 PM

Yeah great idea, I want to take my wife there when she gets her licence so she doesn’t wrap my xr6 around a pole!

Aeron how does your diff cope with all that punishment?

Aeron · 01-04-2007, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jason71

Yeah great idea, I want to take my wife there when she gets her licence so she doesn’t wrap my xr6 around a pole!

Aeron how does your diff cope with all that punishment?

No problems so far. And it has a 10PSI 238RwKw tune too

FPV8U · 01-04-2007, 07:07 PM

Do you know if they do courses in Victoria Aeron?

How much is it for the day?

Aeron · 01-04-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by FPV8U

Do you know if they do courses in Victoria Aeron?

How much is it for the day?

I dont think Ian Luff do any in VIC, but there would have to be someone there that would. The day costs $285 ($295 on weekends). The video only shows a small part of the day. It starts at 8:30 and finished at about 4:30.

FPV8U · 01-04-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeron

I dont think Ian Luff do any in VIC, but there would have to be someone there that would. The day costs $285 ($295 on weekends). The video only shows a small part of the day. It starts at 8:30 and finished at about 4:30.

Thanks Aeron i know the John Bowe school does something 'Similar' down here so i'll have to get onto them.

To be honest i just want to get my car somewhere that i can attack some corners, get it sideways and lean about my cars abilitys, as their is only so much you can learn on the road.

pecker73 · 01-04-2007, 07:30 PM

Excellent viewing :thebirds: :thebirds: :thebirds:

Highly addictive.. :eclipsee_ :eclipsee_ :eclipsee_

jaydee · 01-04-2007, 08:37 PM

I got dizzy just watching it.

Aeron · 01-04-2007, 09:44 PM

I must have blown all of the cobwebs out of the motor because it feels to go much harder than it did before. Looks like a day of thrashing has done it some good!

FPV8U · 01-04-2007, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aeron

I must have blown all of the cobwebs out of the motor because it feels to go much harder than it did before. Looks like a day of thrashing has done it some good!

Mine did the same thing after a night at the strip, felt stronger than ever.

Jet-Star · 01-04-2007, 10:49 PM

Very nice indeed, you handle it well.

knighto42 · 02-04-2007, 08:13 AM

Great videos - I did the Stage 2 about 18 months ago and it makes me want to go do it again.

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Originally Posted by ardei

One question I do have, on Stage 2, do they take the FWDs on the same big circle skidpan as the RWDs? Seems a bit futile really....steer,accelerate, back off, brake (if necessary), steer, accelerate, back off, brake....

I did the Stage 2 in a 1999 Camry (

: )and it was still an awesome day. There was everything there from a Porsche to a 80's model Mitsubishi Colt- so don't worry what you take with you to drive - just go and have fun.

drcook · 02-04-2007, 09:29 AM

i take it you guys were at oran park, because i was at eatern creek doing my track day and didnt see you there.

Aeron · 02-04-2007, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by drcook

i take it you guys were at oran park, because i was at eatern creek doing my track day and didnt see you there.

Yeh, mate Oran Park.

Who was the track day with? Driving Solutions?

Matt_971 · 02-04-2007, 05:16 PM

links dont work. Is that an issue with your account or youtube?

Ives · 02-04-2007, 05:26 PM

Links work for me.

XR06T · 02-04-2007, 05:40 PM

excellent stuff mate.. you can see those brakes working on the ss!!

links dont work for me either but i knew where to find them

wish my dad would come to track days like that with me, would be tops.

i couldn't link them either, youtube internal error.. they'll be back

Aeron · 02-04-2007, 05:43 PM

Yeh, there is a problem with YouTube at the moment.

Try to find them here ---> http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=AeronPhotos