Third Water pump, XR8 220kw. Why?

620hp_gt · 08-12-2006, 05:12 PM

My Xr8 220kw that i brought new in 2001 has had 2 water pumps and needs another one now.

Is this a common problem.

What would cause them to leak on the seal every time.

It has done 77,000 km's, Rego is (XR 8220) has 171rwkws, and been no problem other than the water pump issue.

xr8ute · 08-12-2006, 06:21 PM

leaking at which seal?

sbutler · 08-12-2006, 06:30 PM

Haven't heard of it being a common problem. There is the odd one that has had a new pump fitted for one reason or another...

620hp_gt · 08-12-2006, 07:28 PM

Front rubber shaft seal.

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Originally Posted by xr8ute

leaking at which seal?

xr8ute · 08-12-2006, 08:08 PM

Hmm....that is curious. Not something I had heard of happening to anyone else either (not to say it doesn't happen though)

What have they done for each fix? Replace the whole pump assembly, or just the seal in the original pump?

620hp_gt · 08-12-2006, 09:12 PM

The first one they changed at a service, next one I fitted, and I will fit the next one as well.

Going to see if it is covered under warranty. it was aftermaket from autopro.

They sometimes are.

Not good , new water pump every 25000

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Originally Posted by xr8ute

Hmm....that is curious. Not something I had heard of happening to anyone else either (not to say it doesn't happen though)

What have they done for each fix? Replace the whole pump assembly, or just the seal in the original pump?

sbutler · 08-12-2006, 09:22 PM

Buy the sound of it, you have had a run of dodgie pumps, it would suprise me that a forth one would be a lemon..

howesy · 08-12-2006, 09:48 PM

Are you using nulon coolant?
It's the only nulon product I don't use as i found it makes leaks appear where they never have before.

mik · 08-12-2006, 09:52 PM

dont know if this will help but you might try some water pump lubricant in the coolant, ...... i`m wondering if the radiator has good coolant/inhibitor in it?? , i bought a pump (reco) for my truck .............the impellar came of while idling

:, dodgey ones are out there for sure, i`d try a different brand good luck with it.

RG · 08-12-2006, 10:10 PM

Had to put a new water pump on mine with the engine rebuild as mine was looking like it was about to go.

philstoj · 08-12-2006, 11:02 PM

Could be just a bad batch...
My original one let go at 60,000 kms, which i was very surprised with, replaced it with a generic one and has been good so far 20000 kms later.
maybe you should look at a better quality one, or check for other issues with your cooling system, could also be a bit of crap floating around in there, what coolant are you using?

Yellow_Festiva · 09-12-2006, 08:07 AM

Is it possible to do away with the mechanical pump???

I once found a web site that touted a small horsepower increase (like 4-6kw, or was it HP?) when you removed the pulley for the pump and placed an electronic water pump in the system somewhere connected to a thermostat???

But either way if yours is leaking that has to be fixed anyway....

OzJavelin · 09-12-2006, 09:01 AM

On older cars with traditional V'd belts, repeated waterpump failure was usually a sign of overtight belts. On a modern serp-belt I'd doubt this is the problem, but might be worth checking if the same person is installing each pump

620hp_gt · 09-12-2006, 03:27 PM

200 kw's at the wheels would have noticable change...Good effort....Wait until it loosens up, go burnoff some GEN3's.

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Had to put a new water pump on mine with the engine rebuild as mine was looking like it was about to go.

620hp_gt · 09-12-2006, 03:34 PM

Thanks for all the replys.

Have a new Powermax water pump, 2yr warranty, New coolant ready to install.

42 degs temp here today, makes it hot in the shed.

Have been working an XBGS, oringinal, 302 4 speed, white gold stripe.. Very oringinal...Was a Dealer demo in its day, Clothe Trim, A/C, Rear demister, driving lights. with Books.....Been off the road for years.

For sale too if anyone is interested, absoletly NO Rust.

benny_mac · 09-12-2006, 09:10 PM

You wouldn't happen to have uinder drive pulleys would you, I've heard they sometimes give premeture failure due to it spining more times then it would from factory.

12 · 09-12-2006, 11:00 PM

The AU 220kw are underdriven from factory.

philstoj · 09-12-2006, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 012

The AU 220kw are underdriven from factory.

All the AU V8's are, not just the 220's, they all share the same pulley's, dont think this would be an issue though.

12 · 09-12-2006, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by philstoj

All the AU V8's are, not just the 220's, they all share the same pulley's.

Correct, I was referring to the 220kw as that is what the thread is about.

RG · 09-12-2006, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by philstoj

All the AU V8's are, not just the 220's, they all share the same pulley's.

Are you sure because I have been told that the AUII/III 220's have a different harmonic balancer to the earlier ones (smaller hence being underdriven) and that was by G&D.

philstoj · 09-12-2006, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 012

Correct, I was referring to the 220kw as that is what the thread is about.

Yeah no probs, i wasnt trying to make a point from your post.

philstoj · 09-12-2006, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RedXR8220

Are you sure because I have been told that the AUII/III 220's have a different harmonic balancer to the earlier ones (smaller hence being underdriven) and that was by G&D.

They are all the same engine in the beginning, then they are modded by Tickford so they all should have the same harmonic balancer, but you never know with ford.
Ive checked a while ago and they list the same one for all of them, one piece pully balancer.